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Old 11-17-2007, 03:00 AM
RonFezBuddy RonFezBuddy is offline
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Default flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

Do we want to bet this flop or give him a chance to make a move on the turn so we can shove?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t7090)
UTG+1 (t4450)
MP1 (t9630)
MP2 (t22670)
MP3 (t7145)
CO (t9706)
Button (t5560)
SB (t9175)
Hero (t3290)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t650) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero?
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

value bet 1/2 pot
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

I'm wondering how the pot became 650 here. bet 1/2 here and 3bet, if he calls shove on the turn.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

I bet 450 here everytime. There are quite a few turn cards that we won't like enough to shove over a bet, so try to get the money in/build a pot now.

If u bet 450, he's calling with a fair amt of his range, and raising with a sig portion of it too.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

with Q7s i would raise preflop if SB completes.

as played i think betting out is the better alternative.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

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I bet 450 here everytime. There are quite a few turn cards that we won't like enough to shove over a bet, so try to get the money in/build a pot now.

If u bet 450, he's calling with a fair amt of his range, and raising with a sig portion of it too.

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I would rather see a 450 bet than a 1/2 pot bet. There is ~20% of your stack in the middle... take it down.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: flopped TP + Flush Draw - PS $20

I like betting out here, especially if we've been aggressive recently. He's not going to hit many turns he likes if he wiffed this, and the pot is a welcomed addition to our stack.

I agree with Lev too, why didn't we just shove this pre? 25% of stack in middle...
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