2/4 Three bet pot vs. ArturiusX 200bbs deep.

[Pudge714]

We haven't tangled at all.
He shoved river pretty quickly.
Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $788.50
SB: $725
BB: $341.60
Hero (UTG): $846.70
MP: $400
CO: $256.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP folds, CO calls $14, <font color="red">BTN raises to $68</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $54, CO folds

Flop: ($156) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $140</font>, Hero calls $140

Turn: ($436) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $250</font>, Hero calls $250

River: ($936) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $330.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $936 Pot ($936 Rake)
BTN showed and LOST (-$458 NET)

Can I fold turn?
Is he ever value shoving worse on the river?

[mythrilfox]

i definitely fold pf. given you called, i think flop play is mandatory. turn i'd fold, he can expect you to have at least AK here the majority of the time, and he seems pretty solid so a big bluff here knowing you have at least TPTK seems out of his purview.

[orange]

ugh, i think once i get to the river i'm calling. is that bad?

[mythrilfox]

yes very bad imo.

edit: i mean we are getting sexy odds so i probably shouldn't say "very bad" but i highly doubt it's profitable.

[yve]

ez fold pf

[ogdundar]

I fold or shove the turn because he won't valuebet worse than AQ on the river and if a spade hits I doubt you get him all-in by calling the turn.

As played I really hate to fold but I don't think he vb worse.

[luckychewy]

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ez fold pf

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and probably fold turn, but if not i'd just stick it in...he'll be getting 3:1.

[praios]

fold preflop

[ArturiusX]

I was actually thinking during this hand, "if he has XX, XX, or XX, he's in a real [censored] annoying spot", and I tried to plan the hand to make it more annoying for you.

[Yeti]

basically you put him on the installment plan