25NL Bottoms Full A Monkey Could Play it Better

[xxrod17xx]

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

<font color="green"> Villan is 21/5/2 through 270 hands. I have not played with him at this table very long he sat down recently. </font>

UTG+1: $9
UTG+2: $24.75
MP1: $18.40
MP2: $17.90
CO: $36.05
BTN: $13.95
SB: $19.75
BB: $29.90
Hero (UTG): $27.65

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $0.75</font>, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+2 bets $2.25</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50, UTG+2 calls $2.25

<font color="blue">I told myself I have to pot this flop I have to pot this flop. My mind was so not clear and I just clicked call. I think I got greedy and wanted the extra bet out of the pf raiser? </font>

Turn: ($16.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG+2 calls $9, BTN folds

<font color="blue"> I think this was a much much better line on the turn (as played) it put the min-raiser AI and left me with some money to bet on the river. If he has Q8 or Q's so be it I guess. </font>

River: ($34.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+2 bets $10.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero?

[diebitter]

I call that all day. He ain't got no bare 8, and if he had AQ or QQ or 88, too bad, but there's still AA/KK/JJ,TT,99 and even AK and diamond draws you can beat.

[xxrod17xx]

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I call that all day. He ain't got no bare 8, and if he had AQ or QQ or 88, too bad, but there's still AA/KK/JJ,TT,99 and even AK and diamond draws you can beat.

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What do you think about my line on the flop?

[diebitter]

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I call that all day. He ain't got no bare 8, and if he had AQ or QQ or 88, too bad, but there's still AA/KK/JJ,TT,99 and even AK and diamond draws you can beat.

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What do you think about my line on the flop?

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The check is okay with 2 still around, but a 3/4 psb would have been okay too.

I like the call. you want to keep the other big stack in. I like the whole hand, except you should push the river. The turn bet is not something to fear, it's what you want here.

Imagine playing it a million times over exactly like this. Think about how they've played and what hands they'd play that way. You'll see you'll come out ahead after a million times, and not by a little.

[Ironic]

That's a fold on the river, clearly.

[ship_it_trebek]

I can't see myself folding here for over 3-1, this really doesn't look like an 8. If he has the 8 and is willing to raise the flop, he's probably going to raise hero's bet on the turn too.

[CaptVimes]

I think you need to call this river. You only need to be good here 20% of the time.

22 games 0.005 secs 4,400 games/sec

Board: 8h 8s 4d Qd Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.545% 54.55% 00.00% 12 0.00 { 4h4s }
Hand 1: 45.455% 45.45% 00.00% 10 0.00 { QQ+, 88, AQs, AQo }

I also think you need to lead the flop.

[crazymoose]

Given villain's stats and the preflop action I doubt he has an 8 and unless he has quads I doubt he has a Q either. Also, people make absolutely ridiculous bluffs on boards like this with like AK. Therefore, call.