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Old 10-12-2007, 12:01 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

I'd call flop raise, call turn, call river bet. Bet if checked to on the river.

maybe im spewy? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

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I'd call flop raise, call turn, call river bet. Bet if checked to on the river.

maybe im totally standard

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Old 10-12-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

calling the flop is real bad if you dont know what to do when he bets turn because he's betting turn a significant majority of the time. personally id call/call/call
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

This hand is a superb example of why my strategy of goals and reasonable expectations for hands is so relevant in the new world of online MTTs.

Like Bond, I started playing online STTs MTTs about a year ago, after having read up on strategy for perhaps 10 months. What I found bore little resemblance to what I had read.

Online MTTs (at least on FTP ) wasn't this tasty stew chock full of donks that everyone portrayed it as. There was a very healthy dose of experienced thinking players at all levels.

This turn bet could be 3 distinct type of players:

1. donk with Ax flush draw

2. decent player with AK A9 A2 22 with no flush draw worried about you having backdoored into a flush draw on turn

3. expert player with 99 putting you on AQ AJ low-mid PP and thinking he could take it away from you on flop and now choosing on turn to continue to represent a move as his best tactic to extract value for his set

Personally I fold to his 2-bet on flop. Even after my flop bet I have committed very little capital relative to my M. Top pair strong kicker is a hand that I like to lead the action with. And finally I don't feel that AQ owes me much more in this hand than just taking it down on the flop with a single bet.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

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calling the flop is real bad if you dont know what to do when he bets turn because he's betting turn a significant majority of the time. personally id call/call/call

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I agree with this
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

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calling the flop is real bad if you dont know what to do when he bets turn because he's betting turn a significant majority of the time. personally id call/call/call

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This was definitely the plan until he instapotted the turn. Really made no sense since basically no one does this with a weak hand until they're a complete idiot which, unfortunately for me, he was but I didn't realize it. I was likely shoving the turn but his instapot made me think otherwise.

Baltostar- Very interesting. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

I think the turn is a very easy fold.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:24 PM
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Like Bond, I started playing online STTs MTTs about a year ago, after having read up on strategy for perhaps 10 months. What I found bore little resemblance to what I had read.


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lol, wtf?
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:27 PM
gobboboy gobboboy is offline
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

BTW, one year ago, LOL. Go back to party in 2005.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Simple TPTK hand.

if this was party 2005 he would have KJ and A5 if he was lucky.
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