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Old 05-27-2007, 01:31 PM
Exitonly Exitonly is offline
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Default Warmup flop bluff

ok, 50 hands into the Warmup, i opened a few pots early on but took them down with a flop bet, hadn't played a hand for about 10 hands and then I opened in MP1 and it slowely folded around and I took down the blinds, then this is the next hand:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t9850)
MP2 (t14375)
MP3 (t19475)
CO (t10100)
Button (t7900)
SB (t10950)
BB (t9675)
UTG (t7100)
Hero (t10350)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t600, SB calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t2000) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1000</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3000

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is this FPS? Should i bet this flop? I would have heads up, but 3 way with a button caller i check here a lot.

edit: no specific reads, BB is taknaptoin but he's not really involved in the hand, button hasn't done anythign noteworthy (i should have taken a look to see how he lost his 2100 chips, but i think i woudl have noticed anythign atrocious)
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

I've just stopped bluffing early in this turney. ppl just don't fold
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

It's good certainly against these opponents. I donked myself out of this tourney with a 3barrell bluff... But the players in these tourneys are simply too much weak tight/predictable. So here, I assume he'll ''bluff'' this flop quite often after two checks, and he really can't stay in the hand without a Q. They may even fold hands like KQ QJ QT.
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

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I've just stopped bluffing early in this turney. ppl just don't fold

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lol, exact opposite on my table, except for 1 time where....I lost my stack
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

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I've just stopped bluffing early in this turney. ppl just don't fold

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Seriously. Also, roo, I don't think you can ever expect an unknown to fold top pair if he decides to call preflop w QT/QJ/KQ in the first place.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

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and he really can't stay in the hand without a Q. They may even fold hands like KQ QJ QT.

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strongly disagree, ppl will call the additional 2k to "see what happens". and trying to fold out top pair in a sunday tournament is just unrealistic imo.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

This is a really standard c-bet for me. Just think this is a board that doesn't hit their range too often and let's me rep a strong hand pretty easily.
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:05 AM
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This is a really standard c-bet for me. Just think this is a board that doesn't hit their range too often and let's me rep a strong hand pretty easily.

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Old 05-28-2007, 12:21 AM
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betting this flop 100x better then your c/r it's cheaper gets the same hands to fold and the same ones call you anyway cuz it doesn't matter to them what you are repping just what they have.
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Warmup flop bluff

Forgot to say that I think the c/r looks really really bluffy. I think it's awful.
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