Entire HH for a $27 on Stars

[ManChild]

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im curios about this hand, why you opened to 600 instead of 500. anything to do with 44 being very vulnerable?

PokerStars Game #7639749101: Tournament #39079278, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/12/28 - 00:01:39 (ET)
Table '39079278 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Motta (5845 in chips)
Seat 3: arnair (2345 in chips)
Seat 6: z32fanatic (3815 in chips)
Seat 7: nml agent (1495 in chips)
Motta: posts the ante 25
arnair: posts the ante 25
z32fanatic: posts the ante 25
nml agent: posts the ante 25
Motta: posts small blind 100
arnair: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to z32fanatic [4s 4h]
z32fanatic: raises 400 to 600

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I'm curious about why 500 is better than 600. I'm not disagreeing with it I just don't know why. I've seen it recommended to only raise 2.5XBB instead of 3X and I've never seen an explanation on why.

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the reason 500 is better than 600 is for reasons of pot control. it keeps the pot smaller and pretty much if they are folding for 600 they will fold for 500. if you hit your hand you can still easily figure out a way to get all your money in, but if you miss your origional raise will have been smaller and your c-bet can therefore be smaller.

[z32fanatic]

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the reason 500 is better than 600 is for reasons of pot control. it keeps the pot smaller and pretty much if they are folding for 600 they will fold for 500. if you hit your hand you can still easily figure out a way to get all your money in, but if you miss your origional raise will have been smaller and your c-bet can therefore be smaller.

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Pretty much. Also I'm folding to a shove from the big stack and the 2nd place guy, but definitely calling a shove from the short stack, so raising to 600 doesn't do me any good (except maybe help convince the short stack that he doesn't have FE with his middle suited cards). Also, if I am called by the middle stack, a continuation bet will be ~700 into a ~1400, rather than having to bet 800 into a ~1600. It's a small difference but I think it can add up longterm.

[hiho]

PokerStars Game #7639771711: Tournament #39079278, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/12/28 - 00:03:10 (ET)

Table '39079278 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button

Seat 1: Motta (8340 in chips)

Seat 3: arnair (1545 in chips)

Seat 6: z32fanatic (3615 in chips)

Motta: posts the ante 25

arnair: posts the ante 25

z32fanatic: posts the ante 25

arnair: posts small blind 100

z32fanatic: posts big blind 200

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to z32fanatic [Qh 9c]

Motta: folds

arnair: calls 100

z32fanatic: raises 3390 to 3590 and is all-in

arnair: folds

z32fanatic collected 475 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 475 | Rake 0

Seat 1: Motta (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: arnair (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 6: z32fanatic (big blind) collected (475)



Interesting push, could you explain? I think that I have alot to learn here. Thanks for posting.

[MikeMcQ1]

I posted the $27 one in a seperate thread, but then saw this $16 hand later. In case you forgot, Z, BIGE13 was a HUGE Lag fish in the 16, and in the 27 the button limped a lot. I'm very curious why you would not complete in the 27 in lvl 3, but complete this A9 in lvl 5.

PokerStars Game #7639546604: Tournament #39079216, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/27 - 23:48:18 (ET)
Table '39079216 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: omniheart (1215 in chips)
Seat 4: thelucid1 (880 in chips)
Seat 5: z32fanatic (3080 in chips)
Seat 6: TITUSPOWER (1205 in chips)
Seat 7: THEBIGE13 (3965 in chips)
Seat 8: Budha95 (500 in chips)
Seat 9: aaamonty3 (2655 in chips)
z32fanatic: posts small blind 75
TITUSPOWER: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to z32fanatic [9c Ad]
THEBIGE13: calls 150
Budha95: folds
aaamonty3: folds
omniheart: folds
thelucid1: folds
z32fanatic: calls 75
TITUSPOWER: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 3h Tc]
z32fanatic: checks
TITUSPOWER: checks
THEBIGE13: bets 300
z32fanatic: folds



PokerStars Game #7639448576: Tournament #39079278, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/12/27 - 23:41:58 (ET)
Table '39079278 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Motta (2720 in chips)
Seat 3: arnair (1255 in chips)
Seat 5: rainman6060 (2225 in chips)
Seat 6: z32fanatic (2885 in chips)
Seat 7: nml agent (3235 in chips)
Seat 9: pokerguy303 (1180 in chips)
z32fanatic: posts small blind 25
nml agent: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to z32fanatic [5d As]
pokerguy303: folds
Motta: folds
arnair: folds
rainman6060: calls 50
z32fanatic: folds

[DevinLake]

hiho, the explaination is that it is +$EV to shove any two here against most opponents. Q9 is an easy shove here. What makes this situation so +EV, is that the SB has <10BBs.

[z32fanatic]

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I posted the $27 one in a seperate thread, but then saw this $16 hand later. In case you forgot, Z, BIGE13 was a HUGE Lag fish in the 16, and in the 27 the button limped a lot. I'm very curious why you would not complete in the 27 in lvl 3, but complete this A9 in lvl 5.

PokerStars Game #7639546604: Tournament #39079216, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/27 - 23:48:18 (ET)
Table '39079216 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: omniheart (1215 in chips)
Seat 4: thelucid1 (880 in chips)
Seat 5: z32fanatic (3080 in chips)
Seat 6: TITUSPOWER (1205 in chips)
Seat 7: THEBIGE13 (3965 in chips)
Seat 8: Budha95 (500 in chips)
Seat 9: aaamonty3 (2655 in chips)
z32fanatic: posts small blind 75
TITUSPOWER: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to z32fanatic [9c Ad]
THEBIGE13: calls 150
Budha95: folds
aaamonty3: folds
omniheart: folds
thelucid1: folds
z32fanatic: calls 75
TITUSPOWER: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 3h Tc]
z32fanatic: checks
TITUSPOWER: checks
THEBIGE13: bets 300
z32fanatic: folds



PokerStars Game #7639448576: Tournament #39079278, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/12/27 - 23:41:58 (ET)
Table '39079278 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Motta (2720 in chips)
Seat 3: arnair (1255 in chips)
Seat 5: rainman6060 (2225 in chips)
Seat 6: z32fanatic (2885 in chips)
Seat 7: nml agent (3235 in chips)
Seat 9: pokerguy303 (1180 in chips)
z32fanatic: posts small blind 25
nml agent: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to z32fanatic [5d As]
pokerguy303: folds
Motta: folds
arnair: folds
rainman6060: calls 50
z32fanatic: folds

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Basically, I'm much more confident with A9 in this situation than A5o in that situation because I only had 20BB, whereas with A5o, I had over 40BB. I'm much more willing to get it in when I hit the A in the A9o situation. There is almost no situation with the A5o hand where I will feel comfortable getting it in with 1 pair. There are a few in the A9o hand so I feel better about completing. I don't think completing with A5o in the first hand is bad, it's just a little more complicated and you'll get in some tougher situations with it.

Also, while I could kinda tell BIGE was bad because he showed down some crap, I couldn't tell the button was limping a lot in the $27 because I was playing too many tables. I definitely miss a lot of reads by playing more tables, but it's a sacrifice you gotta make obviously.

[alex-star]

standard IMO. smaller stack limps in the SB - time to shove or at least raise VERY big.