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Old 10-14-2007, 11:41 PM
xxrod17xx xxrod17xx is offline
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Default 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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<font color="green"> Reads: Player is new to the table. I have 68 hands on him he is 50/8/1.6. </font>

UTG+1: $19.90
MP1: $49.85
MP2: $26.50
CO: $7.35
Hero (BTN): $26.50
SB: $26.85
BB: $25
UTG: $113.50

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.45</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.15) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2

<font color="blue"> It was played so oddly I thought I would see a river card and re-evaluate. </font>
River: ($7.15) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.40</font>, Hero calls $2.40

<font color="blue"> WTF was I thinking?! I know I only beat AK here, but my gut was telling me he was weak. I have seen people min-rr pf with AA and check on a flopped A, but how does one check this flop with and overpair? I thought it had to be AK. Thoughts? </font>
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

this is fine. I probably play it the same although I bet the flop a decent amount of the time.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

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this is fine. I probably play it the same although I bet the flop a decent amount of the time.

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Why? or should I ask for? value? to fold to a raise?
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

b/c he isn't checking overpairs often and you need to get value (if possible) and not let him draw for free otherwise
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

ok
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

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this is fine. I probably play it the same although I bet the flop a decent amount of the time.

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Why? or should I ask for? value? to fold to a raise?

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betting the flop would mostly be for protection, you want to protect vs the 4overcards
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

I think you definitely need to bet this flop. If he calls, I'm probably done with the hand and hoping to check it down.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

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this is fine. I probably play it the same although I bet the flop a decent amount of the time.

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Why? or should I ask for? value? to fold to a raise?

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betting the flop would mostly be for protection, you want to protect vs the 4overcards

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It's also very much a value bet since players will call at this level w/ overs.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: 25NL 10\'s OTB in a Min-RR\'d Pot

If he was really tight then our TT would merely be a bluff catcher should villain call/raise a flop bet of ours.

Given his stats, his range is certainly not like KK+ here despite the flop minraise. Itīs true: a lot of the time, he calls w/ overcards. And sometimes he has AA.

I still think itīs profitable to bet for value, itīs just not as profitable (in the long run) as betting with a lock.
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