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#51
10-05-2007, 08:15 AM
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Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid
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This kid is almost 18 - the only things he needs to worry about are college, college girls, and whatever sports he's still interested in. Maybe some Xbox action. Steering someone that young to poker, especially someone with so much potential, is just a bad idea. If you're talking about pure monetary gain, the same amount of effort you'd need for poker will probably give him a far better return elsewhere, and with far fewer headaches. Poker comes with a lot of frustrations. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly! Poker can be used as ONE OF MANY metaphors for whatever it will be his true vocation/calling is, what he ultimately will be passionate about and give him a sense of fulfillment and contribution in life. The ability to handle frustration can also come in handy for future problems and challenges. He is totally dedicated to college, BTW. Poker is just an extra subject. 
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#53
10-05-2007, 09:52 AM
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"Personally, it sounds like you are trying to live through this kid vicariously and trying to mold him into what you wanted to be." All I'm doing is giving him the most possible number of options. The rest is all up to him. Whether its the priesthood, the military, starting a company, it's all entirely up to him what he wants to become. But he will have a lot of options to choose from. If you look at the books that he has already read, notice that a lot of the knowledge from all of them can be applied practically to any field. Persuasion, personal effectiveness, strategy, management of teams, etc. Poker would add even more strategy, discipline, long term thinking, math(which he is very strong at), people reading, etc. Its up to him what he wants to do with the stuff. After this poker project is done, its on to real estate, sales (Dale Carnegie training), internet marketing. Summer next year, he must leave the house period. I'm not trying to mold him into anything. He can do whatever he wants. And he will have all of the options. "He should be reading for the joy of reading, for the joy of learning. Not because daddy is paying him." The whole point is to get the knowledge and skill sets in his brain and behaviors, and that is exactly what's happening. Too late to get it out of his head regardless of how it got put in there to begin with. Kids in school get paid with grades and they study for the grades not the knowledge. But guess what? The knowledge stays and become part of the database inside the head. I just made the rewards extra money not grades. The idea is to have the knowledge inside the head no matter what, at a very young age if possible. Once he joins the workforce or starts a business or joins the Peace Corps, he won't have as much time to study. Better to put in the stuff in the brain before he even gets started. [/ QUOTE ] Grades are a measure of how well something is learned and not the reward. At least, that is how I viewed them. It really sounds like you are trying to mold him way too much. What's next? Taking him out to the bunny ranch on his 18th birthday?
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10-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid
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[ QUOTE ] You are enabling a minor to get into a habit which can be an addiction. [/ QUOTE ] The neurolinguistic programming training ensures this does not happen. [/ QUOTE ] Is this a joke? NLP isn't going to save a kid from addiction.
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#56
10-05-2007, 04:27 PM
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You're going to ruin this experiment by trying to control it too much. By "experiment" I'm not sure if I mean poker or your son. [/ QUOTE ] I like the bluntness of this statement. I wish the OP would recognize that he is dealing with fire here. PP, I am going to stop posting on this thread because I am wasting by finger ligaments on this. You may not believe that you kid will fall into the way-side of poker, but what happens if he does become addicted to poker, and then he never wins? What if after all of this, he doesn't like it? What if he isn't willing to tell you he hates playing because he doesn't want to disappoint you? I find it odd that you don't play poker, but you want your kid too. For required reading for YOU, please read "Ace on the River," because Barry Greenstein discusses how he felt about his children playing poker. Maybe you will be able to see what being a player is all about. Ironic to see a total flip-side from a non-player. I'd be damned if I ever taught my kids how to play poker when they aren't even old enough to go to a casino. I really don't comprehend why you don't want your son to have a real job, if expanding his understanding of the world is your goal. Wouldn't it do good for him to see the effect of low-paying jobs on the workers? The kid is young, let him have some kind of life, please. Trust that for him to become good, he will be investing tons of time at the computer. Reading helps, but what good are social skills without practice? He has a good 50 years left, there is plenty of time for him to figure out his own self. I fear that you aren't allowing him this opportunity.
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#59
10-06-2007, 05:40 AM
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Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid
I don't know why everyone in this thread is so anti poker for someone turning 18.
I have been playing poker for 4 years and I am 19. Has it distracted me from schooling but just don't it let it. I would regret not getting into poker IMO. If the kid shows no sign of even liking the game though then I wouldn't push it.
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#60
10-06-2007, 06:29 AM
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Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid
Im 18 at the moment. Poker is a funny game, but it can make you very lonely, because wheater you lose or win, you do it alone.
If he has other hobbies like sports or music, poker could be a good complement. But it is really not a good hobby #1. I know this, since I can't do any sports at the moment and poker is not very fullfilling for me. I think a bankroll like $100 is enough. He should start at the lowest limits and build his bankroll from there. Besides, I haven't seen a father who thinks his son or daughter is stupid. Most poker players lose, why shouldn't he?
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