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Old 01-02-2007, 03:06 AM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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Default Re: Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

man i am a tard.

i didnt even see flush draw yet.

[censored] me just fold lalalalallal it was indeed retardo drunkeness.
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

It's odd the thing that brings me to decided whether or not to call PF is the BB, if he's a nit I fold. If he's willing to see lots of pots I am fine with the call as it will be a 3 way small pot with a good hand for it. Even though OOP Exit is obv the better player.

Also, I think turn bet is too big, 450 does the job here would you really bet 600 there with a hand trips or better?
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

I like a check/call too. I can't make this call PF, but I'm pretty sure you are decent enough after the flop to do it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

I think a check/call on the river is pretty horrible. His range is still big to me (he could be slowplaying an overpair,an eight,unable to give up a pair,etc,etc.). I think betting half pot on the turn and then around 2/3rds pot on the river and folding to a raise is the way to go.

We beat basically nothing on the river and I doubt this villain is charismatic enough to be raising a hand we beat.
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Old 01-03-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

I don't like pf. If there's a caller in between, then sure go for it.

Do guys honestly check/call the river here? That's giving up a lot of value. When raised, I think we're ahead of a bluff/trips/AA/KK more than 25% of the time. Call.
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Old 01-03-2007, 04:59 PM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Default Re: Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

i think folding river is gonna be a big mistake overall

people love raising [censored]-hands for value like QQ+ here

we're worried about exactly 88/77/33 and a backdoor flush

we beat a lot more than that

and yeah turn doesnt need to be 600. i'd probably just go with 400 and let him make some silly hero call on the turn that cant stand a river bet (you are planning on betting river UI, correct?)
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