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Can this be folded
The outcome is unimportant here, and this seems to be an obvious push, but I had to think about it. This is a turbo tourney that is down to 11 and I'm 2nd with a W of 4 and a Q of about 2. This tourney won't last another 30 hands, which means that those with healthy stacks will move up the pay chart quickly. It also means this whole event is a massive coin flip. The question is, in this situation do you want to put most of your stack on the line against someone with W of 2.5 and a Q of 1.25 when you could effectively blind into 4th or 5th? The villian has been a reasonable player, but I'm not sure that matters here.
POKERSTARS GAME #13237860212: TOURNAMENT #66630862, $10+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XXII (15000/30000) - 2007/11/14 - 14:09:18 (ET) Table '66630862 9' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 2: xxx (112132 in chips) Seat 3: hero (209937 in chips) Seat 5: xxx (365513 in chips) Seat 6: xxx (25856 in chips) Seat 9: villian (127952 in chips) xxx: posts the ante 1500 hero: posts the ante 1500 xxx.: posts the ante 1500 xxx: posts the ante 1500 villian: posts the ante 1500 hero: posts small blind 15000 xxx: posts big blind 30000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to hero [Kc Ad] xxx: folds villian: raises 96452 to 126452 and is all-in xxx: folds |
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Re: Can this be folded
my vote is yes, it can be folded...
but i'd probably call and live with the outcome. |
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Re: Can this be folded
I hope you're kidding. Shove and fist pump. Playing to move up a spot or 2 is WAY wrong in this tournament (and almost every tournament) as it is a super top heavy pay scale. Villian should be shoving with a range that you absolutely crush, folding AK here is a big mistake.
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Re: Can this be folded
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I hope you're kidding. Shove and fist pump. Playing to move up a spot or 2 is WAY wrong in this tournament (and almost every tournament) as it is a super top heavy pay scale. Villian should be shoving with a range that you absolutely crush, folding AK here is a big mistake. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Make the call and be confident about it. His range is much wider that your holdings. Play to win the tourney. If that means taking a flip right here then so be it. |
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Re: Can this be folded
To elaborate, in case I wasn't clear or the concept isn't familiar to you, villian is making this bet with a particular range of hands... In all in situations it's pretty easy to determine fold/call spots by calculating your equity versus the hands he is likely to hold.
In this case, with large blinds and antes, if you were only 50% versus his range it would still be a profitable call because of the dead money in the pot. As is, he is pushing a ton of random garbage (i.e. A2, K7, 89...) and you are much better than 50% to win. edit: unless it's Dantes_11 pushing, then AK is an easy fold. He's crazy tight [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: Can this be folded
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As is, he is pushing a ton of random garbage (i.e. A2, K7, 89...) and you are much better than 50% to win. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks BF. That's mostly how I came to my conclusion to call. Moving from 4th to 1st or 2nd is much more profitable than 10th to 4th, and I'm going to have to be fortunate somewhere. Folding is a super weak move hear, but having stopped and thought about it, I had to make sure I was following a good thought process. |
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Re: Can this be folded
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Shove and fist pump [/ QUOTE ] So std. |
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Re: Can this be folded
I'm calling here 100% of the time in a turbo tournament.
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Re: Can this be folded
never have i ever wanted to fold here
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Re: Can this be folded
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never have i ever wanted to fold here [/ QUOTE ] So there it is..... |
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