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Old 11-12-2007, 12:14 AM
Berge20 Berge20 is offline
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Default NL 50: AK hits TPTK

Still getting back into the flow of things and working some kinks out. I've added my comentary in. Any and all thoughts are welcome. I'm rusty.

Hero running at 16/9/3
Villian is 22/8/3 over a ~80 hand sample.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($63.15)
SB ($53)
BB ($31.15)
Hero ($65.50)
UTG+1 ($41.50)
MP1 ($63.95)
MP2 ($44.85)
MP3 ($21.75)
CO ($6.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

<font color="blue"> Standard procedure </font>

Flop: ($4.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, Button calls $3.50.

<font color="blue"> C-bet as usual </font>

Turn: ($11.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

<font color="blue"> The flop call concerned me because this is basically a dry board, so villians range isn't real wide here. Who bet folds here? I checked because sometimes this type of player will float and take me off a hand, so I get value from bluffs by check-calling. Also AQ might fire here as well. If it gets checked through, no biggie--I've only got a pair. </font>

River: ($31.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $47.65</font>, Hero folds.

<font color="blue"> River is me trying to max value from an AQ and set my price for showdown. Once I'm raised, it's an easy fold. </font>

Final Pot: $67.75
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:43 AM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

Check the river. AQ/AJ shouldn't be beting $10 on the turn. His range is very nuts or nothing here.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:19 AM
gman339 gman339 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

If I slow down on the turn, I'm c/c or c/f river. River lead seems like an odd line imo....which may have induced a bluff by villain. I agree with AllTheCheese. Villain either has a monster or complete air here.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:10 AM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

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Check the river. AQ/AJ shouldn't be beting $10 on the turn. His range is very nuts or nothing here.

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so are we always calling a $30 bet on the river?

I guess the call and PSB on turn does seem pretty strong, I agree it doesn't look like a lesser A.
c/reevaluate seems to make sense
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

I agree this is a fold as played.
If you are going to check call on the turn, I think I would usually check the river too. If you think he would call with AQ then I think the line you took is alright. I like checking because I think villian will probably be more likely to bet more hands on the river than he would call with.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:24 AM
oakrdrzfan oakrdrzfan is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

I like the cbet. I either like a c/f turn or a b/f even better. i don't like the c/c turn.
I really hate the c/c followed by b/f river.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

John, I don't call a PSB on the river unless there's some history. I note and check nuts to him next time a similar situation arises. I do call $20 on the river though.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: NL 50: AK hits TPTK

I'd rather b/f on the turn. You are still going to get action from AQ probably calling and if he's floating, we have the pot. He'll most likely let you know if he has a better hand on the turn with a raise. I like checking the turn with stronger hands than TPTK if I want to induce a bet from a villain who was possibly floating. TPTK isn't the best hand to do this with IMO bc it leaves for tough river decisions like we have here. It's a fold.
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