basic overpair, QQ; min-raised on flop by bad player

Maulik · #1 06-20-2007, 02:06 AM

Is stack-a-donk standard?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($200)
Button ($582.55)
SB ($79.55)
BB ($200)
UTG ($464.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, Button calls $7, 2 folds.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $16, Button raises to $32, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($81) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $40, Hero raises to $161 (All-In), Button calls $121.

River: ($403) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)
.

Final Pot: $403

gir · #2 06-20-2007, 02:08 AM

Yeah, I think so. Nice hand.

Maulik · #3 06-20-2007, 10:29 AM

Thanks.

Unknown Soldier · #4 06-20-2007, 10:32 AM

is he bad agro or bad passive?

I usually just 3b here as it is drawy

Maulik · #5 06-20-2007, 10:34 AM

Unknown,

He is bad, but I didn't know that 'til after the fact.

Isura · #6 06-20-2007, 11:19 AM

I 3-bet here.

Sciolist · #7 06-20-2007, 11:30 AM

Yeh, flop three bet is a good idea.

Part of the range of his flop raise is a draw, looking for a free card, and another part of his range is hands you're a long way ahead of.

The problem I am having in these spots is that whilst someone GOOD has those hands in their range, do regulars at these games? I keep stacking off with overpair vs. sets on drawy boards where perhaps I shouldn't be...

Vegas_VIP · #8 06-20-2007, 11:40 AM

I like the 3 bet here, but I think the way you played it is pretty good as well.

KikoSanchez · #9 06-20-2007, 12:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Yeh, flop three bet is a good idea.

Part of the range of his flop raise is a draw, looking for a free card, and another part of his range is hands you're a long way ahead of.

The problem I am having in these spots is that whilst someone GOOD has those hands in their range, do regulars at these games? I keep stacking off with overpair vs. sets on drawy boards where perhaps I shouldn't be...

[/ QUOTE ]

It's tough sometimes but I don't good player min raises set on such a board since playing many turn cards will be difficult/put them behind. On the other hand, if someone that isn't supper-aggro is just looking to get lots of money in on flop on drawy board, it usually isn't worth it. Even if you think it's 50/50, 50% of time you're 8/92 vs set and only 60/40 or so vs FD, 50/50 vs FD+over and behind to combo draws. Sort of depends where you play though. If you're just getting crazy plays against you 50% of the time you have op, gotta gamble. If you're getting laydowns almost EVERY TIME with c-bets, it should be very easy to fold aa-qq even on the crappiest of boards once a regular once to get lots of money in all of a sudden.

Sciolist · #10 06-20-2007, 12:50 PM

[ QUOTE ]
If you're just getting crazy plays against you 50% of the time you have op, gotta gamble. If you're getting laydowns almost EVERY TIME with c-bets, it should be very easy to fold aa-qq even on the crappiest of boards once a regular once to get lots of money in all of a sudden.

[/ QUOTE ]
But he might be making a play just this one time!