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Old 09-25-2007, 03:08 AM
QuietEarner QuietEarner is offline
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Default Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

Main villain (BB) is 22/16/1.6, can't remember him ever 3betting PF, over 160 hands.

Other 2 villains play lots of pots, the more conservative one is 66/6/0.7. Other 2 villains also call down alot with A high and bottom pair type hands,

Full Tilt 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP folds, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

My question is how bad did I butcher the hand trying to get max value. I was being passive wanting SB to call the bets thinking a raise would prob fold him out, because of all the PF action.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:25 AM
BryanC BryanC is offline
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

I think the flop call is OK but definatley raise the turn BB will likely put in two bets anyway so doesnt matter much if SB folds if BB has aces or kings he might even get spewy and 3 bet you never know, IF your plan works and SB check calls whats to say he's gonna put more money in on the river anyway ?
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

That's what I was thinking, raise turn, if SB calls bonus money but atleast BB is calling the extra bet, and prob one more on the river as he did.

Any thoughts on raising the flop, pros and cons?
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:23 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

cap preflop and just keep betting and raising.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

I am playing aggressively on the flop and I want the BB to think I am overplaying AJ. If some donk has 76 here or is peeling with overcards + backdoor flush draw, I am going to charge him to get there.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

In a pot this size this is absolutely horrible IMO. Just hit the bet/raise button as often as you possibly can.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

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Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.


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"Oh hi there MP and SB. I have top set. Oh, would you like to draw (correctly) to your gutshot with 87, A2, or A3? Sure no problem! I'll just call and then you guys can just call and draw behind me for cheap. Yeah, I know you'd fold if I made it two bets for you but I'm feeling fancy today, so let's give it a whirl."
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:19 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

you can't call a flop 3bet and raise/cap the turn if you don't raise the flop.

cap PF, raise/call flop, raise cap turn, bet river $$$$$$$$$$$
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:12 PM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

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Old 09-25-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Getting Max value on flopped set, FT 2/4?

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