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Old 11-12-2007, 01:36 AM
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It's party Drew having no mobility, and partly our O-line being god awful in those days.

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Damnit, tdarko, stop stealing my material. I mean, so much of it is stolen from FO in the first place, and having it re-stolen just feels dirty, for some reason.

A post of mine from this thread, about 4/5 of the way through:

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An example of this principle, courtesy of PFP 2007. Last year, the Dallas Cowboys started the same five offensive lineman for all 16 games. Drew Bledsoe was sacked once ever 11.6 dropbacks (attempts + sacks), while Tony Romo, behind the same exact line, was sacked just once every 17 dropbacks. The league-wide average was one sack per 15.1 dropbacks. So, did the Cowboys O-line go from attrocious to somewhat above average halfway through the season, or did the team just insert a QB who was much less prone to being sacked?

Note that Bledsoe had a similar sack rate at Buffalo (11.9 att/sack), as well as at New England during his final three years (11.8 att/sack), which is roughly when he turned into The Human Monolith.

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In my defense, I will point out that I did the research about Bledsoe in Buffalo and New England myself.


Anyway, my guess is that the Dallas O-line was (and probably still is) about average at pass protection, so their sack rate was basically going to be a reflection of their QBs' sack avoidance skills. Bledsoe was terrible, Romo is pretty damn good.

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Also don't forget that with Bledsoe, Parcells was forced to use Witten in max-protect. While Cowboys went max-protect with Witten again in the first few quarters vs. Giants tonight, Romo's mobility allows Witten to free up and play like the Pro Bowl TE that he is.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:54 AM
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VarlosZ,

Did I really have to link that thread?

1. I couldn't remember where I read it but I remembered the general numbers.
2. Most stuff posted on this site is taken from some previous website but not linked.
3. Did you want a pat on your back for those numbers?
4. FWIW, I already knew the sack differences between Romo and Drew from last year--but thanks for doing the work on Drew's years in Buf and NE b/c I didn't know those #'s!

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I was totally kidding. Sorry, I thought that would come across, but sometimes that sort of thing gets mistranslated online.

Sorry again for the confusion.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:05 AM
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Even though I'm an Eagles fan, I'm pretty excited to watch this game. There will be many spots where I will say "I wish my team could do that", probably.

Dallas by 9.

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i wasn't off by that much. how is TO open by so much so often?
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:18 AM
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Even though I'm an Eagles fan, I'm pretty excited to watch this game. There will be many spots where I will say "I wish my team could do that", probably.

Dallas by 9.

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i wasn't off by that much. how is TO open by so much so often?

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because the giants corners are not very good?

seems like the easy answer
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:53 AM
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i wasn't off by that much. how is TO open by so much so often?

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because TO is an elite, play making veteran in the NFL. In addition to many other reasons such as sub-par corners, single coverage, etc.
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