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Old 11-02-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

Hero is button with $145 in front.
UTG is huge LAG with $1400. 80% pf/always raises.
UTG+1 is TAG with $300. Average postflop skill.

Preflop UTG raised to $15, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="blue">hero calls...</font>

<font color="blue">Is this a good spot to play? </font>
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

98s on the button.
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

I think the answer depends on how your hand is going to play postflop vs these players.

If utg will always fire another bullet and then decide what to do afterwards then you've probably got a good spot to play because there will be implied dead money in the pot when you make your flop decision. If utg will pay off your stack when you catch one pair and he's got ui overs then you're in a good spot. If he'll give up too quickly on the turn or river then you're in a good spot.

If he'll push back or rebluff, or if he can read hands well at all then you're in a tighter spot, but this is probably a nice playable hand here.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

[ QUOTE ]
I think the answer depends on how your hand is going to play postflop vs these players.

If utg will always fire another bullet and then decide what to do afterwards then you've probably got a good spot to play because there will be implied dead money in the pot when you make your flop decision. If utg will pay off your stack when you catch one pair and he's got ui overs then you're in a good spot. If he'll give up too quickly on the turn or river then you're in a good spot.

If he'll push back or rebluff, or if he can read hands well at all then you're in a tighter spot, but this is probably a nice playable hand here.

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Thanks for the reply.

UTG will almost always fire the flop.
UTG+1 is the type to give up quickly, especially since they both view me as tight.
While UTG is a stronger player I felt I would have an opportunity to make a play at him...or double through him if I made a hand.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 50-200 NL 98s on the button vs. deep stacks.

This is a definite fold preflop, you're simply too shallow. Also unless you are all in on the table for some reason you should be able to top off to 200, with a maniac sitting on 1400 in chips I have no clue why you wouldn't make this a priority. Your almost short enough to just shove preflop with hands worth reraising him but its a bit awkward with ~150.

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