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Old 10-23-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default $5/$10 Set River Decision (Hand reading related)

Live $5/$10 NL in LA cardrooms. Villain is very loose aggressive.
1. He always 5.5Bet preflop from LP against live straddle with 3 limpers.
2. He always bet on the draw and raise with combo draws in HU.
3. I have tight image. Earlier hand, he's the button. utg live straddle $20, MP+1 calls, I call with JJ from LP, villain 5.5bet to $110. Live straddle calls, MP+1 folds, I raise to $510 (with $1K behind), he folds.
4. He also folds another hand pf to my limp 3-bet. But we never play post flop.

5. He's very lucky and covers everyone at the table, so he likes to call down in HU.

This hand, mp limps, I limp with 66 from mp+1. Folds to villain, he raises to $60. mp folds. I call. HU.

He has 5K, I have 2K.

Flop 762r. He leads out $100. I raise to $200. He calls.

Turn Kd, two diamonds on board now. He checks, I bet $300. He calls.

River Td. He checks, I?

Plan A, (aggressive) under bet the river $200 - $250 to invite a shove from weaker hands... (Read - he'd c/r the turn if he has combo draw, but he cc the turn. I don't believe the river help him. His hand has no showdown value, my underbet shows weakness and invite a shove from weaker hand, call from medicore hands.)

Plan B, standard, check behind.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: $5/$10 Set River Decision (Hand reading related)

or plan c - play a set the worst way possible
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:30 PM
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Flop 762r. He leads out $100. I raise to $200. He calls.


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seriously?
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:36 PM
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:37 PM
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Flop 762r. He leads out $100. I raise to $200. He calls.


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seriously?

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OP fails. please explain why you are min raising a LAG fish with a ton of cash whose been calling down light all night? your play would make sense if you're seeking to extract the minimum? raise, and bet a lot of monies.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: $5/$10 Set River Decision (Hand reading related)

checking behind is not standard, betting is standard, and you played this hand way too weak. Bet $650 on the river, and bet more on the flop and turn.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: $5/$10 Set River Decision (Hand reading related)

im responding to say that im not responding to this...
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:14 PM
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Flop 762r. He leads out $100. I raise to $200. He calls.


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seriously?

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OP fails. please explain why you are min raising a LAG fish with a ton of cash whose been calling down light all night? your play would make sense if you're seeking to extract the minimum? raise, and bet a lot of monies.

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I understand, if this is online cash game, it would be different.

My image is super tight. I believe only this loose player will give me action with very weak hand. Against solid aggressive players, I'd raise the flop to $350, bet $500 - $700 on the turn.

However, against this loose guy HU, on the flop, I think he folds to $300 raise a lot. And, if I raise to $250, he wouldn't call $300 at the turn with air.

In this hand, on the flop 762r, when he bet/call my raise, I'm pretty sure he only had air. The $200 raise is for him to call $300 turn.



Are you serious, most loose players would call $300 raise on the flop and still c/c $500 on the turn? I don't know. If that's the case, I really need to adjust my play. However, you got to give me honest and right response given the fact hero has tight image and villain is loose aggressive. Let's not just for the sake of winning an argument when posting, let's put real and logical reasons here.

Overall, how likely you can extract $500 from air on the flop, turn and induce $1200 bluff at the river? (yes, river bluff was bonus just because the scared card hit, so, it can be optional)

Edit: But, I really like to hear others plan for each street. We are getting paid on one bet or two bets?
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:19 PM
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or plan c - play a set the worst way possible

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Seriously, what's your plan to extract $500 from air on the flop, turn and induce $1.2K shove at the river here?

I can tell you he had A9o.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:36 PM
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Eagle,

You know you lost in that argument about my two big hands in the WCOOP ME. It's interesting you still bring it up.

I'm not saying you are bad player or can't beat me in HU. I'm waiting for you to catch up at cardplayers' POY. You will earn my respect if you make 10 POY FTs in live tournaments in a year.
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