KK line check

Bigmoney · #1 08-16-2006, 01:26 AM

Villain is tag, other guy is some 40vp.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($389.30)
Hero ($662.20)
MP ($1023.70)
CO ($624.60)
Button ($427.44)
SB ($477.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, Button calls $14, SB (poster) raises to $58, 1 fold, Hero calls $46, Button folds.

Flop: ($138) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $105, Hero calls $105.

Turn: ($348) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB calls $312.90 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $660.90

bruin · #2 08-16-2006, 01:28 AM

I would 4-bet preflop if he is 40vpip. BTW, are you calling an all in on the turn if a spade doesnt fall?

Gugel · #3 08-16-2006, 01:36 AM

I'd jam it on the flop.
As played, the turn is a fold.

vanHelsing · #4 08-16-2006, 01:59 AM

push PF, push Flop - on turn you are either outdrawn or outplayed and I guess you have to fold.

aba20 · #5 08-16-2006, 02:17 AM

I like it, your equity in the hand is going to drastically change when the turn comes. The only problem with just calling the flop is if he doesn't have spade you can be bluffed off the winning hand. Interesting spot but I think you played it well. Also if villian is known to squeeze I would punish him preflop by reraising.

Suntzu00000 · #6 08-16-2006, 02:33 AM

On the flop: Push or fold

If the villian is a very tight, I wouldn't see him making that preflop reraise with AK or QQ. This is especially true if you are a tight player. Your probably up against bullets and should get out now. If you think he would 4x your preflop raise with AK, QQ, or JJ then a push might be the right decision.

Turn: It should never have gotten to this point, but the fold is the correct play.

CopTHIS · #7 08-16-2006, 12:08 PM

I don't mind that line at all against a TAG. It may look bad in some ways, but I don't think it is.

Caribbean Steve · #8 08-16-2006, 12:18 PM

I'm feeling a solid Reraise Preflop .
No need trying to trap.. he's in BB out of position and coming after u

fossil · #9 08-16-2006, 03:33 PM

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On the flop: Push or fold

If the villian is a very tight, I wouldn't see him making that preflop reraise with AK or QQ. This is especially true if you are a tight player. Your probably up against bullets and should get out now.

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I have to respectfully disagree with this. Tight doesn't mean tight with the money. I can see any tight/aggressive reraising with AK,QQ,JJ.

Lucky · #10 08-16-2006, 03:38 PM

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On the flop: Push or fold

If the villian is a very tight, I wouldn't see him making that preflop reraise with AK or QQ. This is especially true if you are a tight player. Your probably up against bullets and should get out now. If you think he would 4x your preflop raise with AK, QQ, or JJ then a push might be the right decision.

Turn: It should never have gotten to this point, but the fold is the correct play.

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folding flop is bad. Either call flop and push safe turn, or push flop.