When to fear Overcards?

rhayder · #1 11-11-2007, 07:11 AM

No read:

My thoughts.
BB Calls my raise preflop and then bets into me on the flop.
On the flop maybe he is trying to represent a king. I raise He reraises. Now I think he does have a king I call hoping for a flush draw or another Q. The turn doesn't help me so I am out. If I call the turn I think I have to go to the river and that is can be an expensive so I chose not to continue.

Please let me know your thoughts and if this was a good fold and if raising on the flop is too much.

Everest Poker Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

CO ($24.97)
Button ($18.25) (Hero)
SB ($12.00)
BB ($16.99)
UTG+1 ($30.00)
UTG+2 ($13.75)
MP1 ($14.65)
MP2 ($38.47)
MP3 ($39.16)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 checks, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 1 folds, Hero raises, 1 folds, BB calls, 1 folds, MP3 calls,

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 3.25BB )
BB bets, 1 folds, Hero raises, BB raises, Hero calls,

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( 6.75BB )
BB bets, 1 folds,

milesdyson · #2 11-11-2007, 07:26 AM

call every street and see if he has a jack/draw or a king. it's about 60/40 he has a king so raising is bad. how do i quantify that? just experience. people think this is exploitable but it is so hard to exploit u calling down qq here it's not funny. if you have aq you'll call the flop/turn as well. so should he 3barrel? i dunno. you'll have aq as well as aj jts qq here. also i sometimes slowplay ak/aa to the river. no one can crush you.

neurotiq · #3 11-11-2007, 01:29 PM

I'd just call this flop. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

tyler_cracker · #4 11-11-2007, 02:55 PM

miles,

thank you for validating my decision to open this thread. good stuff, sir.

JJack · #5 11-11-2007, 03:00 PM

just call down and let him keep bluff or bet with worse hand

cocktails · #6 11-11-2007, 03:06 PM

You guys do this in the most Situations, what about 4-handend en more you are still do thiss. I almost always raise to know where i am. Thinking now of a big leak, can you say more about this.

JJack · #7 11-11-2007, 03:08 PM

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You guys do this in the most Situations, what about 4-handend en more you are still do thiss. I almost always raise to know where i am. Thinking now of a big leak, can you say more about this.

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HU is call down

When pot is bigger and thare are more player behind you you often have to raise or fold your hand using read on donker. Raise to proctect your hand.

MoonOrb · #8 11-11-2007, 03:43 PM

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I almost always raise to know where i am. Thinking now of a big leak, can you say more about this.

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I think this is a leak. Because what do you do when you're raised/called? You probably just keep playing the hand the same way you would have, right?

Ghie · #9 11-11-2007, 05:03 PM

I think when your HU in this position that the call down every street is right. I've been owned so many times with 10,10 JJ, QQ, KK when a OC has flopped and I've keep jamming away. Its like Gold Fever!

maverickai · #10 11-12-2007, 01:07 AM

grunching. I'll call on the flop, and fold to a turn bet by villian. Why do you want to raise the flop? To find out where you are at with QQ?