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Old 11-08-2007, 02:26 AM
fooz fooz is offline
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Default 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

The table had just broken down from 6 players to the 3 of us.

Villain is 20/17/4.8 after 1400 hands.

He'd recently been pretty active. 3betting me a couple times preflop, raise/4betting me off a hand, and playing postflop quite aggressively (as usual).

On this hand, he insta-shoved after I bet. Do you call?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
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Stack sizes:
Button: $264.80
SB: $234.50
fooz: $200

Pre-flop: (3 players) fooz is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">fooz raises to $29</font>, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($58, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">fooz bets $42</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $205.5</font>, fooz?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:33 AM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

what? of course you don't call
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

Hmmmm. I folded on this hand, but I actually think I might've been ahead.

My cb% is 90+%. I think he shoves a lot of pocket pairs + some hands like AQ. I'll be calling the next time for sure.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:59 AM
TheGreenMile TheGreenMile is offline
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

i think its closer then it looks at first glance.. i lean towards calling but i'm a station. does k9=Kq here?
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

bvb its pretty close, i dont know if i can fold it. I dont mind a flop check behind at all though.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:17 AM
shandyboy shandyboy is offline
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

if villain has AK, KQ he wants to get max value, i doubt he wd check raise as he's not getting action from hands he beats.

hard to put him on a 3, to me, this screams he has a PP or air, and he is pulling a move knowing u cant call without a king - esp with his agression factor which is relatively high.

i dont hate a fold, but i can see a call here for metagame ldo.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

With this being a 3-bet pot, I'd definitely consider calling.. it depends on what hands with a king he calls with preflop. Probably folds KJ and below, maybe has KJ. He probably shoves AK preflop - he's pretty aggressive it looks like. So like, I think this is aces or a middle pocket pair making a move, and there are way more combos of a middle pocket pair than there are of aces.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:27 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

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bvb its pretty close, i dont know if i can fold it. I really like a flop check behind.

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My thoughts almost exactly.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:27 PM
theplux theplux is offline
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

im a crazy cbeter and I dont cb this flop here :\
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: 3way - TAG check, insta-shoves my TPMK on a paired board

check flop, as played, call. If your CBet% is 90+, you're betting this flop with air alot. His shove is more consistent with a medium pocket pair A/x than a better king. FWIW, if you're betting this flop and folding everything but KJ+, I'm check/shoving any two... read this as "if you're betting this flop with a king, you must call a shove".
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