Why I don't like Bellagio

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- They were supposedly re-doing the chairs earlier this week, putting all new castors on so they would roll waaaaay better. I'll find out for myself this weekend.

- 2/5 and 5/10 play 10-handed, 10/20+ is played 9-handed.

- On the CityCenter front, the dirt is that there will be a brand new room, and it will have 30 tables.

- The additional 10 tables that were added a couple years ago are what make the low-limit section so tight. However that's the only real spot they have in the room for the games. Hell, the 5/10 is mainly played in the front corner. The tables close to the book are for 15/30 and 30/60 lhe and other mid-limit games. Low-limit overflow is put on the tables closer to the cashier where the daily tourneys are played.

- As for the personnel, unfortunately as with all other businesses there is a lump of coal or two, but they've done a great job in the past year getting good people as floors and shedding some of the dead weight. Personally outside of Matt I'd gut the swing low-limit podium. I hate Porn Mustache Man.

- And the felt's been replaced on several tables at least twice in the past 6 months alone. Seen them do it late-night.

[p4594spa]

While agree the damn tables are crowded because the stuff 10 instead of 9 players on small tables. They don't allow seats to be backwards....But the Bellagio middle limit tables (15-30, 30-60) are the juicest tables I have ever played. Only the Mirage offers any regular middle limit tables (10-20, and 20-40). The Venetian only offers middle limit during peak times. I am willing to trade off some of the complaints for a chance to play against tourists who don't know how to play but have money to burn

[Eponymous]

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Back on the original topic, another example of the poker room being less than it should be is the felt on the tables being so worn.

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???? The felt seems to be replaced as often as the felt on the BJ tables. Can someone confirm?

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In rooms that use their tables the felt wears very quickly.

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I guess I was there when it was at the end of its cycle (back in May). I'm regularly at another room that really uses their tables, the Borgata, and the felt always seems perfect. They must replace it much more often. I know it's a new room, but if the Bellagio table felt gets worn that much in six months, then Borgata must have replaced theirs several times already since the new room has been open. I've never seen it even show signs of looking and feeling old and used.

[Barry]

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But if you play limit hold em above 15-30, Bellagio is the only place to play IMO

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I'd probably say above 4/8 LHE...

[McMelchior]

Interesting to read these frequent Bellagio hater threads. Let me chip in with a slightly different perspective.

I've played at the B during my last ... erh .. 6 or 7 visits to Vegas. I'm a tournament player, and I've played the morning satellites, the weekly afternoon tournaments, and a few of the Bellagio Cups events.

I love that place.

There's a guy running the sats, Allen or Alan, and he's a sweetie ... remembers my name from year to year, courteous and effective in getting the sats going.

Dealers are many levels above the Borgata (or any other AC casino), I don't remember one single dealer mistake, and they don't waste time or lose focus by chatting with the players. This WSOP I experienced some pretty poor and unsavory dealers at the Venetian - not so at the B.

The tournaments have been flawlessly run to boot.

I realize I've been playing in the Fontana lounge the last couple of years, where the space is better than in the main poker room. But even in the poker room things have been nice and clean. Of course I haven't played after midnight ... that might be a different story.

Anyway, Bellagio is clearly my fav tournament spot in Vegas.

[ntnBO]

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At Bellagio I turned my seat around and sat on it backwards, which is how I normally play long sessions. I was promptly told I could not do this.

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I was there this weekend and a guy in the 1 seat did the same thing. Within 10 seconds the floor told him he couldn't do that any more as the chair backs were constantly breaking. If you were playing the 15 game perhaps this was you! However you are allowed to sit like this while receiving a massage. I wonder if you would be allowed to do this while receiving a rub from a personal masseuse or significant other?

Was the first time I had seen this not allowed as well.

BO

[jeffnc]

It's kind of interesting to me to hear all the hate - I sort of believe it, but I've never personally experienced it. And I player lower limits from $4/8 to $15/30. I only play $4/8 if I'm waiting for a table, but I've never had any problem at all getting on the list, getting called, and getting table changes. They've all handled it pretty professionally.

The room seems quite comfortable to me. There is less extra room than some casinos, but given the original size of the room and the expense of expanding, I'd rather they squeeze a few extra tables in there giving me more choices to play and reducing my wait.

[jeffnc]

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a better question to ask would be "what game". Hold'em isn't the only option, David tends to sit in any game where he has an edge, and leaves any game where he doesn't see his edge. Sure lots of high limit players make fun of his tendency to wander around the room, but I think we can all learn from his careful game selection.

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Brunson seems to do pretty well without being a math nit.

Then again, I guess we will never know how much these guys make.

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Brunson seems to do pretty well without being a math nit.


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1) Brunson is a professional sports better, it is rumored that Poker is a leisure activity compared to his sports betting enterprise profits (I doubt we will know anytime soon if thats true). This doesn't discount his poker playing skills, just that the big game isn't quite as big as it seems when you factor in the wagers he makes elsewhere. This little fact has always impressed me.

2) Dont believe the hype, Brunson and Chip are both gifted mathematically. Case in point, their sports betting once again. Brunson is a master salesperson, don't take everything for face value, he lets you know what he wants you to know and nothing more; which is part of his brilliance as a player.

[jeffnc]

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Brunson seems to do pretty well without being a math nit.


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2) Dont believe the hype, Brunson and Chip are both gifted mathematically. Case in point, their sports betting once again. Brunson is a master salesperson, don't take everything for face value, he lets you know what he wants you to know and nothing more; which is part of his brilliance as a player.

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Note I said "math NIT" as opposed to "gifted mathematically while also being good at other aspects". I'm not disagreeing with you, just clarifying my point. I really have a hard time seeing Doyle moping around the card room room, requesting table changes, and refusing to give action. I'm just saying, I think it's possible to make as much or more than Sklansky does with a different m.o.