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Old 11-16-2007, 03:15 AM
renfurdson renfurdson is offline
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Default PS $5 sng river decision

early in tourney no read on villian

all thoughts welcome

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t1410)
Button (t2080)
SB (t1570)
BB (t1460)
UTG (t910)
Hero (t1470)
MP1 (t1680)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, MP1 calls t80, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: (t190) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t120</font>, MP1 calls t120.

Turn: (t430) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t420</font>, MP1 calls t420.

River: (t1270) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1060 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

Final Pot: t2330
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:48 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

As always , there is a hand with an actual decision and no one replies.

I like the first three streets, river I think puke and call is ok getting 2.5 to 1 - his hand certainly looks like a flush, but I dont think we can say with c ertainty at the smaller buyins that it is clubs.

Reasons I call: Im not sure how guys play in the lower buyins, but I would think a flush may try and squeeze value from you here by maknig a smaller bet? If he had something like AXc, I would think he may have raised you at some point in the hand, but perhaps this is a passive donk. He could have AcX - where he knows if the flush gets there, with the Kc out, you dont have clubs - but that might be higher level thinking than exists at teh $5s.

More reasons I like calling: How often do you feel this is a bluff, now that you have given up on your agression with the hand? If a bluff makes up any part of his range here, I think a call is ok.

Reasons folding is semi-ok: We have 850 left, which can certainly be enough for a comeback, but things need to go our way. I would prefer to call and just bust open a new one when he tables 78c, and fistpump when we get shown A7o
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:04 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

It sucks that we don't have the Ac but I still call because we checked the river and a bluff is now a bigger part of his range.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

Hero definitely calls, especially at $5. I like check/calling on the river because it allows the villain to bluff at us. And yeah, I think we would be facing a smaller bet from a guy with a made flush.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

I am not sure about this push=noflush thinking. This is a flush more often than not IMO. But we´re getting odds to call here because at a $5 there we gonna see AQ, A9, KQ often enough.
edit: and A7o too
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

I agree with the call. This is probably more in line with an A9 catching on the river than the made flush. Not that calling PSBs chasing the flush is out of the question, but I call.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

I think i call in this situations

It's bad line if i CR the turn in a similar situation?
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

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I think i call in this situations

It's bad line if i CR the turn in a similar situation?

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Too many cards you don't wanna see on river, so bet to make drawing a mistake. Don't wanna give a free card. In a cash game I'm certainly potting in on flop to build a big pot. This would allow for a larger turn bet, making river decision easier (call). I tend not to pot too many flops in STTs, for whatever reason. Leak?
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:59 PM
renfurdson renfurdson is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 sng river decision

Thanks everyone.

I actually folded and then got the feeling it was probably wrong.
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