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Re: Final table with AK
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[ QUOTE ] C/F I dont think villain is folding. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be suprised to see how many actually folds mid pockets here when they are faced with a decision for their stacks. [/ QUOTE ] I'm always surprised by the exact opposite when I shove AK on the turn here (which is always) |
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Re: Final table with AK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] C/F I dont think villain is folding. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be suprised to see how many actually folds mid pockets here when they are faced with a decision for their stacks. [/ QUOTE ] I'm always surprised by the exact opposite when I shove AK on the turn here (which is always) [/ QUOTE ] Really? I think it depends on the situation. On the bubble I'd guess a 21/12 type of opponent folds quite often, and depending on how highly he/she cares about moving up a spot in the payladder, we may have bubble spots for every place. I'd take a glance on official pokerrankings and try to decide whether he/she is gunning for 1st or just want to move up a spot. |
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I'm always surprised by the exact opposite when I shove AK on the turn here (which is always) [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I two barrell here almost every time. |
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Re: Final table with AK
borderline spot but I think our being in the SB and OOP maks this a preflop push...not losing that much value cause if we get called pre the hand is hard to play with these stacks
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Re: Final table with AK
Why are we shoving 20BB's PF? Making it 7.5 instead of 9 fixes the stack size problem just as easily.
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Re: Final table with AK
I bet about 10kish on the flop. C/f the turn. Still have 40k left and are in fine shape. I don't think he is folding and unless he is a retard we shouldn't be ahead.
If the villian had been floating in position, I might c/r. |
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Re: Final table with AK
Please explain why raising to 9K is bad.
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Please explain why raising to 9K is bad. [/ QUOTE ] Apparently because of the low stack size. |
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Re: Final table with AK
Why is this such a tough fold on the turn?
Raise to 8-9K pre. Half-2/3 flop. check turn and see what happens, fold to any decent sized bet. Hero still has a stack to play with if he folds here. Shoving turn might work but i think its spew against a lot of villains range. |
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Re: Final table with AK
To those saying why 9k instead of 7.5k pf - I feel like raising to 7.5k gets flat called by a very wide range of hands here. I'm raising to 9k bc I want him to fold or RR, instead of having to play this hand OOP.
I dbed him and he has like $200 net over 36 games or something, so moving up could be a concern. After time banking on the turn to the last second while talking to my buddy on AIM about whether to shove or check (two to a hand?! OMG!), I checked with a plan to c/f. My gut told me he wasn't folding one pair. Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t1500/t3000 (Ante: t400) 5 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t145620 CO: t65534 Button: t39039 Hero: t60059 BB: t55748 Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t9000</font>, BB calls t6000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t12500)</font>. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t20000, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t14000</font>, BB calls t14000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t34000)</font>. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t48000, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t12000</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t12000 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: t48000 His underbet is totally ghey but I can't see any other way to play this other than folding. |
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