nl10 - Top 2 on soggy board...

1tripz1 · #1 10-15-2007, 01:36 PM

This board is as wet as it gets (hence calling it soggy) so just wondering what people think? I shut down if a scare card comes usually. Also note i couldnt be bothered to raise him all in, just to 5 as id expect him to put that bit in lol.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($5.75)
SB ($27.75)
Hero ($10)
UTG ($14.65)
MP ($15.15)
CO ($2.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.4, CO folds, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40.

Turn: ($1.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.4, Button raises to $2.8, SB folds, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $2.20.

River: ($11.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $0.3, Button calls $0.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $12.10

Milky · #2 10-15-2007, 02:17 PM

Pot the turn, and make a real raise when you're minraised. $5 isn't going to shut out any draws. Just push here.

marimba man · #3 10-15-2007, 02:23 PM

Tricky spot. I want to say c/c the turn but that is so weak... Meh, maybe bet/ push to shorty bet and fold to SB bet is OK.

I don't know though, interested what others say.

marimba man · #4 10-15-2007, 02:24 PM

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Pot the turn, and make a real raise when you're minraised. $5 isn't going to shut out any draws. Just push here.

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OP basically shoved sine villain is so short....

Milky · #5 10-15-2007, 02:25 PM

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Tricky spot. I want to say c/c the turn but that is so weak... Meh, maybe bet/ push to shorty bet and fold to SB bet is OK.

I don't know though, interested what others say.

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You can't c/c the turn since the board is so drawy. Most draws will just check behind for the free card. Definitely need to keep the pressure on as the turn was a good card for you.

marimba man · #6 10-15-2007, 02:30 PM

I'm not happy felting 2 pair on that board 4way is what I'm saying. I admit c/c turn is weak, but b/f seems weak also and b/c seems spewy against the big stack.

I think bet/push to shorty, fold to SB is probs best line here.

Milky · #7 10-15-2007, 02:33 PM

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I'm not happy felting 2 pair on that board 4way is what I'm saying. I admit c/c turn is weak, but b/f seems weak also and b/c seems spewy against the big stack.

I think bet/push to shorty, fold to SB is probs best line here.

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Could be, but it's pretty read dependant. I'd have a hard time folding here unless SB was fairly passive.

Perk76 · #8 10-15-2007, 02:37 PM

Meh,

I kinda think this hand can go either way. It would take a strong read that SB is super passive for me to fold. Multiway with players in the hand, I think someone with a set or straight will raise the flop due to the drawy nature of this hand.

With that said, I think you are gonna be up against a flush draw that hit top pair with the queen alot in this situation. Maybe a set if the villan wanted to reduce a flush draw odds by taking a card off on the turn.

Its just over 1/2 buyin, I think you will win this a decent percentage of the time since your raising essentially puts SB in.

If SB had KQ, he runs goot.

1tripz1 · #9 10-15-2007, 07:12 PM

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Pot the turn, and make a real raise when you're minraised. $5 isn't going to shut out any draws. Just push here.

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Look at the stacks, thats all he had left!

When he minraises the Q i felt that he just AQ/KQ kind of hand maybe of diamonds but maybe on there own. I didnt think i could lay this down without another scare card coming.

Money if you can put him on a hand...

CarmeloAnthony · #10 10-15-2007, 07:50 PM

looks fine