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Old 02-03-2007, 12:50 AM
NoEscape NoEscape is offline
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Default JJ on K76

Paradise Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.10/$0.2
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, BB calls, Hero folds.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.75BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.75BB
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: JJ on K76

Raise the flop. If MP1 comes along, you can dump it without investing on the turn.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:24 AM
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I dump on the flop without information.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:26 AM
Faluzure Faluzure is offline
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I agree with Aheravi, raise the flop, if you get 3 bet fold, if MP1 calls, you have a tough spot on the turn in general. But I would expect him to have a draw, more than a made hand if he cold calls. He's not likely to slowplay a big hand with this board. If/when BB calls, bet turn, check behind on river I think, unless he's terrible. I'm really interested in what MP has, I guess if he's bad, 85s, and K9 are certainly in his range, maybe T8s.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:29 AM
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I dump on the flop without information.

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I'd be curious to hear more. I'm thinking that, at this level, from the BB, this persons donk means 2nd/3rd pair or draw enough of the time to call and see how safe the turn is.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:34 AM
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I dump on the flop without information.

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I'd be curious to hear more. I'm thinking that, at this level, from the BB, this persons donk means 2nd/3rd pair or draw enough of the time to call and see how safe the turn is.

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How often do you think 'often enough' is?
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:47 AM
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I dump on the flop without information.

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I'd be curious to hear more. I'm thinking that, at this level, from the BB, this persons donk means 2nd/3rd pair or draw enough of the time to call and see how safe the turn is.

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How often do you think 'often enough' is?

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Uhhhhh. . . . well, I guess it needs to be ~88% of the time for me to call. And that's just to peel one. So now it's not looking so good. I think I may be spewing more than I'm admitting to myself. Crap.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:31 AM
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Raise or fold on the flop. Calling is far and away the worst option of the three in a three way pot. I personally raise flop, bet turn, and fold to any more aggression on any street. Check behind unless you make a set on the river.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: JJ on K76

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I dump on the flop without information.

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I'd be curious to hear more. I'm thinking that, at this level, from the BB, this persons donk means 2nd/3rd pair or draw enough of the time to call and see how safe the turn is.

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How often do you think 'often enough' is?

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Uhhhhh. . . . well, I guess it needs to be ~88% of the time for me to call. And that's just to peel one. So now it's not looking so good. I think I may be spewing more than I'm admitting to myself. Crap.

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Nah -- you got it backwards. You need to be ahead 1 in 7.5 for this to make sense. Assuming a turn bet and no river (I'm making this up) you need to be ahead 1.5 out of 4.75 (less rake).

Are you ahead here 1/3 of the time?
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