Hoss_TBF / Patrick Antonious GRUDGE MATCH!!!

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except for it's hoss getting killed.
and by patrik antonius.

photo shop of that would be great.

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i'm wearing the exact same socks and i ran bad today too. i see a pattern here.

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Bryce and DB playing again. Bryce bought in for 40k and is currently up 23k

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patrik plays pretty unorthodox

hoss doesnt seem to make really obvious adjustments, i think hes a pretty decent dog here

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If I still made the obvious adjustments, I'd be playing you in 10/20 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I have a question about Hoss' play. Hoss plays so-called unexploitable poker and here he kinda implies that he avoids making "obvious" adjustments based on his opponents style of play. Does this mean he plays pretty much every opponent the same? Furthermore - if Hoss would play in say $3/$6 or $10/$20 or any other lower limit shorthanded game would his unexploitable style still be profitable unadjusted there also?

I have never witnessed him play so these questions have risen based only on the things I have read/heard about his style.

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If I still made the obvious adjustments, I'd be playing you in 10/20 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I have a question about Hoss' play. Hoss plays so-called unexploitable poker and here he kinda implies that he avoids making "obvious" adjustments based on his opponents style of play. Does this mean he plays pretty much every opponent the same? Furthermore - if Hoss would play in say $3/$6 or $10/$20 or any other lower limit shorthanded game would his unexploitable style still be profitable unadjusted there also?

I have never witnessed him play so these questions have risen based only on the things I have read/heard about his style.

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There are a lot of people better qualified to answer this, but since they might not bother I'll take a stab. Playing "unexploitably" means that you balance your actions such that your opponents will not gain more by taking one line or another. Like bluffing with just the right frequency such that villain's EV is the same whether he calls you or folds. Vs. world class opponents this is important since they will presumably pick up on exploitable tendencies and, well, exploit them. Vs. midstakes grinders unexploitable play may not be the best you can do since they will presumably be making mistakes that you can then exploit by straying from the unexploitable path (i.e. if they fold too much on the end, then you bluff more). If he didn't adjust for this, then his strategy would be less profitable but still unexploitable.

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There are a lot of people better qualified to answer this, but since they might not bother I'll take a stab. Playing "unexploitably" means that you balance your actions such that your opponents will not gain more by taking one line or another.

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if that was a case, "unexploitable" would mean being neutral EV against everyone.

playing unexploitably means there's no way an opponent can play to make them +EV against you. if they choose the wrong lines they will lose against you. if they always choose the right lines they will break even.

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patrik talks about the match briefly in his latest blog entry..

"If you have been following the online action lately, you have seen that I had a few great limit hold em sessions against HOSS_TBF. He plays a little different than normal limit hold em specialists. It took a little while for me to figure out what he was doing. Limit hold em heads up is a great game, which requires a lot of aggression and there is a lot of bluffing involved. Not laying down your hand when you are beat can cost you a lot of money, so folding at the right time is very important.

A lot of people might think of me as a PLO and NL specialist. But my limit games are very strong at the moment. Actually I mostly played short handed and heads up limit hold em for a year straight when limit hold em was the biggest game online. I was a little rusty the first few session against Hoss, but lately I have getting the best of him."

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i have no idea who's up but there's a game going.