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Old 09-17-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default 25NL - AQo facing all in

No reads on villain, second hand at the table for me.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $18.45
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $28.85
MP: $24.05
CO: $17.55
BTN: $16.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $15.90</font>, SB folds, Hero ???

Its $13.4 to call and to me it doesn't seem like a set or two pair would play like this, they'd try and get more value. I'm putting his range on any ace. Correct to call here?
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

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Old 09-17-2007, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

Villain could have AK (and be afraid of the flush draw), or have a flush draw himself with maybe a pair of eights (something like 9d8d) or two pair or a set. It's definitely not an instacall for me. If you say instacall, please explain WHY.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

wait...I just realized how this hand played out.

Its still an instacall simply because he doesn't have a full stack and has a worse hand here more oftn than he has a better one.


Anyways...I would rather fold AQ than see a flop 4 way. Must 3bet preflop.

Donking this flop is a bad idea because of the flushdraw. Check raising this flop is optimal.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

Don't like pre-flop. Reraise or fold. Fold pre-flop is what I like best.

As played I immediately liked fold here, but thought it was pretty close so decided to check. And my immediate thought here was wrong.

1.6 to 1. And I don't think it's any worse than this and if it is it's only a little worse I think and it could easily be a good bit better:



Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

50,490 games 0.005 secs 10,098,000 games/sec

Board: 4d 8s Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.626% 32.31% 06.32% 16312 3190.50 { AcQs }
Hand 1: 61.374% 55.05% 06.32% 27797 3190.50 { 8c8d, 8c8h, 8d8h, 4c4h, 4c4s, 4h4s, AhKh, AsKs, AhQh, AhJh, AsJs, Ah8h, Ah4h, As4s, KdQd, KdJd, KdTd, QdJd, QdTd, JdTd, Td9d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 7d6d, 6d5d, 5d4d, AhKc, AhKd, AhKs, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, AhQc, AhQd, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh, AhJc, AhJd, AhJs, AsJc, AsJd, AsJh, Ah8c, Ah8d, As8c, As8d, As8h, Ah4c, Ah4s, As4c, As4h }





So it should be an instant call, but I wouldn't have instantly mashed call. Hopefully though I would have after a little thinking.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

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weak Ax/ diamond fdraws more often than sets/2pair IMHO.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

AQ OOP in a multiway is a loser. Especially with no table reads, let it go without a thought.

A raise can be good with reads, but no point here.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AQo facing all in

Please raise preflop. There is so much dead money in the pot.

I really hate putting all my money in on the flop like this, I mean our Equity isnt great. However I think our equity is better than suggested:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.735% 40.45% 03.28% 8010 649.50 { AcQs }
Hand 1: 56.265% 52.98% 03.28% 10491 649.50 { AA, 88, 44, AJs+, Qd6d, 9d8d, AJo }


But I'm not a fan of calling all in when there is little money in the pot and we only have TPSK.
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