Four Winds Casino…..I was there

[ChicagoJoe]

Michigan City 12 miles away has many just off I-94

[Dr. Detroit]

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Any recommendations for cheap hotels in the area?

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I think there is a holiday inn express about 5 miles or so south (maybe less) at IN39 and the toll road in LaPorte. Not sure of the exact exit number but this is a good one to try.

[Sly Selea]

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Hey I said I was being sarcastic at the first comment [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I said I can't judge until I actually play on them. But I'm just raising the point that I've heard alot of from many who HAVE played on the tables, and that is of collusion being a large issue.


To note: The point Sly is making is that I'm a "live" poker Dealer for somewhere else. I guess that should somehow disqualify me from commenting? I plan on hitting Four Winds quite often if you want to know, so it's not like I'm slamming it or anything with some agenda [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I'm just effing with you, X. I have nothing but respect for your skills. And you are correct, of course, the potential for collusion is certainly there, and would probably require more policing by the players at the table than normal. But personally, if I suspect true colluding, not the occasional slip of the tongue from an over excited toolshed, I don't expect the dealer to catch that. I would approach the floor and discretely address my concerns with him and request he keep an eye out. And honestly, you and Ralph are the only ones I would trust to notice anything but blatent collusion, anyway. You should be dealing in Vegas. Srsly.

You raise some valid points though, and many I still harbor myself, even after four hard days of playing. For me, it's the RNG scare. I sure saw a lot of hinky rivers. I'm a staunch defender of the legitimacy of on line poker, but I know 1 of the regulars we both know won't be back to Four Winds, at least for awhile. I saw him suffer two tremendous bad beats (both 2 outers) IN BACK TO BACK HANDS. The first for most of his stack, the second for the remainder. It was really painful to watch, and I hated to see his response, although I can't blame his suspicions. When you're paying the rent with your winnings, I would prefer to see the cards come out of the dealers hands, too. If only we could match the speed and accuracy of the machines.

And we never got in any 60 hands an hour. I would say we averaged 35 hands an hour at 1/2 NL. The best I saw was when at the 1$10-20 limit table we probably got in 45 or 50 hands an hour.

I had a really good night (for me) Sunday, and tried tipping the wonderfully helpful floor staff when I left. They aren't allowed to accept tips. If that's the case, I will definitely try tipping even more in the future, lol.

And the poker room manager Glenn.....that face! He looks like if you crossed him he would gleefully give your liver a sunshine and leave you floating in New Buffalo harbor.

[Sly Selea]

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Any recommendations for cheap hotels in the area?

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Besides the casino hotel, which is supposedly booked for the next 2 years. New Buffalo does have local hotels as well. Directly at the same exit (exit 1) as the casino you can find Best Western, Holiday Inn Express, Comfort Inn, and a Rodeway Inn. About 10 miles up 1-94 in Sawyer, MI, directly off the exit ramp, is a big new Super 8 motel that is probably your best value. It's easy to get to.

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Anybody heading down there anytime this August? I'll be taking the trip from kalamazoo to try it out probably about 5 times or so until school starts back up. Also,any PLO there and any word on when the WPT sats start up?

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I hear they're getting in 43 hands/hour of OMAHA on the e-tables! Damn

[Sly Selea]

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Anybody heading down there anytime this August? I'll be taking the trip from kalamazoo to try it out probably about 5 times or so until school starts back up. Also,any PLO there and any word on when the WPT sats start up?

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Tier 1 qualifying tournaments are available 24 hours a day for $50. $500 in starting chips. These are sats to:

Tier 2 $450 buy in tournament for a $25,000 seat in the World Poker Championship. $5,000 in starting chips. Held the last Saturday of every month at 12:00 pm.

I should note I have been signed up for a $50 sat since the casino opened and haven't had one go off yet. Close, but no cigar. I think as things settle down and the end of the month approaches they will be much more active.

Haven't seen any PLO, but if you can get 10 players, they can deal it (as it were).

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Will a WPT event actually be there?? Will it be played on e-tables ;-)?

[magoo]

But personally, if I suspect true colluding, not the occasional slip of the tongue from an over excited toolshed, I don't expect the dealer to catch that.



And we never got in any 60 hands an hour. I would say we averaged 35 hands an hour at 1/2 NL. The best I saw was when at the 1$10-20 limit table we probably got in 45 or 50 hands an hour.


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Most dealers do nothing about suspected collusion. Most they would do is call the floor after a complaint from a player. If a dealer doesn't like you, s/he will let you get busted by a Predator creature sitting at the table..."Oh, I didn't notice..."

Hands per hour? An accurate computation of hands per hour from etables would require some type of cumulative time span evaluation.

[Sly Selea]

Hands per hour? An accurate computation of hands per hour from etables would require some type of cumulative time span evaluation.

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Yes, I must confess it was mostly counting the hands for 15 minutes and multiplying by four.

28 entrants in tonights $50 midnight tournament.