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Old 12-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Voj Voj is offline
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Default Stud /8 1/2 line check?

Hello all. I'm pretty new to stud hi-lo and it's my first post here, so don't lynch me if this is stupid or standard.
Could anyone check this line and specially sixth and seventh streets play

7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0,10, Bring-In $0,50 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.50 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (2.50 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (3.25 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls

6th Street - (7.25 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls

River - (15.25 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___calls___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___calls___folds

Total pot: (23.25 BB)
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:21 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Stud /8 1/2 line check?

Fourth street is well worth raising. Either the guy behind you is calling or he isn't. If he's on spades, he'll call two bets, and if he's on a low draw, he shouldn't even call the one bet.

I would bet out on fifth, but I'm not convinced that chicken-calling is terrible. I would also bet sixth, but I'll make the same observation as fifth.

I would bet the river as you did, but when seat 2 raises, it looks like he's probably made a better low than yours, especially if he has a clue. You've been representing a low draw the whole way, and your bet makes it look like you finally got there. I don't think he's raising with an Eight. You call, of course, but I wouldn't re-raise.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Stud /8 1/2 line check?

andy, what if hero had a perfect 7 - would you jam the river then? If the villian has a str8 there's a good chance hero's 7-6 low is the best hand, but it probably is overly aggressive .. nevertheless he is getting good value with two others in the pot so it is good timing for an agressive play.
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Stud /8 1/2 line check?

I think calling the raise is better than re-raising the river. There is no reason to put villian on a straight. You can account for three 6's and a 7 making the 8 high straight unlikely. On 6th street, you are showing two pair another player bet into you with a clear high hand involving a board pair of jacks ; indicating a) he has 6s up beat or b) he is very bad at this game. On the river he already called a bet from you, again indicating he can beat 6's up.

Given these factor I don't think the high or low are good. I think the river re-raise may have made your high hand good by convincing a better high hand that you hit a boat but I wouldn't count on that happening enough to make this a justifiable manouver.
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Stud /8 1/2 line check?

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I think the river re-raise may have made your high hand good by convincing a better high hand that you hit a boat but I wouldn't count on that happening enough to make this a justifiable manouver.

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That was more or less the idea and, well, it worked. Both players in the middle folded and the river raiser called with a worse low so I scooped. Very lucky I guess.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Stud /8 1/2 line check?

I would definitely raise 4th and bet 5th.

It's tempting to reraise the river with a player with a potentially inferior low trapped in the middle, but I'm not sure your low hand is good once you get raised by this player since you have a fairly strong board. I think it's prudent to just call rather than try to win one extra bet (half a double bet from the player with a presumably worse low hand) by risking two (he will usually cap you when you're beat and you end up getting scooped by both opponents).
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