Overcards

Lethe · #1 10-12-2007, 12:42 AM

I've been running kind of bad lately and just want a little checkup.

Villain is usually an ABC TAG, but he's on tilt right now and has loosened up significantly.

he openlimps UTG+1, I raise AhQh in MP, CO, button, SB, and BB all call, as does villain.

flop: Th 5d 6d
SB checks, BB checks, Villain bets, Hero ??

Can I call here w/ my overcards + backdoor draws, even with players left to act behind me?

DeuceKicker · #2 10-12-2007, 01:15 AM

yup

One Outer · #3 10-12-2007, 01:20 AM

mmm hmmmm

mntndrew · #4 10-12-2007, 01:30 AM

The pot's got 15 SB. I'd consider raising if I felt I could get a free look at the river or knock out some players with A5/A6 types of hands. That might be spewy though. At least call.

Bob T. · #5 10-12-2007, 01:35 AM

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Can I call here w/ my overcards + backdoor draws, even with players left to act behind me?

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Wrong question.

I think the right question, is can I play? And I think the answer is yes.

The second question then, is what is the right way to play now? I think that a raise is probably better than a call.

One Outer · #6 10-12-2007, 01:36 AM

Cleaning outs and increasing your equity. Good idea.

Do we have a plan if the turn bricks and he checks to us? Does a flop raise give us enough fold equity to try and blast through him?

Bob T. · #7 10-12-2007, 01:40 AM

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Do we have a plan if the turn bricks and he checks to us? Does a flop raise give us enough fold equity to try and blast through him?

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Given the description of the villian as 'on tilt', we probably don't have any significant fold equity. We might have value betting equity though.

Lethe · #8 10-12-2007, 02:03 AM

MP is loose and passive
CO tight and aggro
Button is loose and aggro.
SB and BB are both pretty new to the table so I don't have reads on them.

Assuming I raise here, if one of them 3bets and villain calls, we're calling and folding a blank turn, right?

Bob T. · #9 10-12-2007, 02:05 AM

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Assuming I raise here, if one of them 3bets and villain calls, we're calling and folding a blank turn, right?

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Yeah, that seems right.

Lethe · #10 10-12-2007, 02:29 AM

Cool. I actually really like the idea of throwing in a raise here, as this gives the chance of folding out the rest of the field and cleaning up some of my outs.

In this particular situation, I just called, CO raised, Button 3bet, villain called and I frown and then muck. Of course after breaking even for the last month and a half leading up the my last 3 sessions where I'm down like, 40BB, the "should I have just saved my bet" question creeped on in.