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Old 08-15-2007, 06:35 PM
Maksymilian Maksymilian is offline
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Default Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in


I have a tight table image. All of my pushes are folded to. Should I let the short stack take the bb before I submit to what likely is a coin toss?


Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t2080)
Hero (t3550)
UTG (t3400)
Button (t4470)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t4470 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t5070
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:40 PM
Jackrabbit Slim Jackrabbit Slim is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

SnGPT says fold unless you think the big stack is pushing very wide. He might be though, so reads would be helpful of course.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

Instacall...unless the game is a total zoo.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:32 AM
DontTapTheGlass DontTapTheGlass is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

You're unsuited...gotta fold. jk jk

You'd rather be the pusher than the pushee...just fold and wait for a better opportunity.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:57 AM
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Instacall...unless the game is a total zoo.

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chip,

could youy explain your reasoning for going against SNG Wiz here??
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

This is an easy fold and a very important principle to learn in STTs. AK is a crappy calling hand on the bubble until the blinds get very high. Especially if you are not the shorty.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

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I have a tight table image. All of my pushes are folded to. Should I let the short stack take the bb before I submit to what likely is a coin toss?

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Eh? The short stack didn't raise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

Instant fold i think this maybe a fold against atc (obv not checked) but against any reasonable range for an unknown this is a fold.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

i never understood why calling here is so bad.
we play to win right? if the button is a solid player he pushes very wide knowing we cant call with most hands.
very often he has Ax or Kx.
he could have a pair in the worst case against which we have a flip.
i think this is one of the rare situations where icm should be ignored.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:33 AM
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i never understood why calling here is so bad.
we play to win right? if the button is a solid player he pushes very wide knowing we cant call with most hands.
very often he has Ax or Kx.
he could have a pair in the worst case against which we have a flip.
i think this is one of the rare situations where icm should be ignored.

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lol
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