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Old 11-29-2007, 12:11 AM
Sugar Nut Sugar Nut is offline
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Default $25NL AA villain overbets river

<font color="blue">Villain runs 18/6/3 505 hands
Player Notes on villain: open minraises from MP2, calls 6bb raise oop, donks 6bb on T32r Flop, doesnt fold to raise </font>

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($27.60)
MP1 ($9.55)
MP2 ($11.75)
MP3 ($38.10)
CO ($15.15)
Button ($22.10)
SB ($30.85)
BB ($6.70)
UTG ($21.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, SB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($6) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

River: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $13.5</font>, Hero?

<font color="blue">I hate those spots, what am I gonna do here? Obviously 55 beats me and I don't think, he's loose enough to call 5bb in the SB with 95 or 53, he could have a busted Flushdraw, maybe even K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for TPGK (note that I have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]), or the straight with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (unlikely also calling in the Sb), but wouldn't he have raised with those kind of hands along the way somewhere?
Is he bluffing here often enough that I can call profitably? </font>

Thanks for comments and/or discussions,

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Old 11-29-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

Here's another, similar one, with the exception that the draw gets there.

PLEASE 2+2 gimme advice on what to do in those Situations!!!

No reads on villain this time


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($24.50)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($24.60)
UTG+1 ($47.25)
MP1 ($13.75)
MP2 ($42.30)
CO ($20.85)
Button ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls $2.

Flop: ($6) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($12) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.75</font>, SB calls $7.75.

River: ($27.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero?
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

I really feel like on the first hand on both the flop and the turn you showed alot of weakness betting only 1/2 pot you gotta make bigger bets when you are ahead, on the river it definetly could be KQ of diamonds because he over bets the pot or it could be a made straight his range is very polarized, i would probably call
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

Hand #2
If I were the villain (I am not, though), the worst hand you can expect once I call both preflop 3-b and flop bet is AK (assuming I respect your 3-b as meaningful). 88 is possible, as your 3-bet size makes it possible to marginaly set-mine if I think you´re gonna stack off easily.

Depending on how I see you, I might be tempted to slowplay a set on the flop here, because I put you on a range like JJ+, AK, sometimes AQ so I am not afraid of a draw in your hand very much. If I see you as agressiv, I might let you bet the flop and the turn and then raise the turn.

The river looks like a set. Given ratio remaining stacks/pot size, there´s no need for him to be all too afraid of a flush.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:37 AM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

Hand #1
I agree, bet more on the flop.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

Bet more on the flop on both hands.
Bet more in general.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

Thanks for th comments guys,

I guess, I missplayed them bith a bit, but please not that I always bet a wee more than PSB, because the handconverter doesn't take in the rake. No question, though that I have to bet more.

However, I called both times winning the second one to TT.
The first one I lost, and after this hand my player notes of villain are as follows:

<font color="blue">open minraises from MP2, calls 6bb raise oop, donks 6bb on T32r Flop, doesnt fold to raise
calls EP pfr in SB with QQ c/c, c/c, push - Board [4d 7d 8s 6c Qc] </font> [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Old 11-29-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: $25NL AA villain overbets river

Sugar,

The two hands are different animals.

First hand you have a very high spr heads up with your AA. Its over 9. Bet the flop more, check the turn for pot control. Call reasonable bet on the river since you may of induced a bluff.

2nd hand you are the magical SPR of 4 with AA on the flop. Only think you should be thinking here is how do I get it all in by the river. KK is not as likely as villain would of probably 4 bet you. QQ is a possibility, but for the most part unless he is an ultra nit, coolers will just happen. Easy call on villains all in on the turn.
The hand plays out far easier with the optimal SPR.
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