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Old 11-20-2007, 06:27 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default AKo UI versus Lags

What's the plan? Villains are on the laggy side.
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ???
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

Check/fold.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

Against LAG opponents you might still be ahead here so I bet the turn. I call a raise and check/fold the river if I don't improve.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

Bet the turn, for value.

What to do if raised depends on which one raises you and who's still in the pot. If UTG raises I'd probably give up, and if UTG folds and Button raises I probabably call down expecting to beat AQ-AJ, KQ-KJ, and possibly a draw, often enough to be profitable.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:42 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

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Bet the turn, for value .

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

41,122,620 games 12.312 secs 3,340,043 games/sec

Board: Tc 8c 7h 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 20.759% 20.43% 00.33% 8402406 134318.00 { AsKh }
Hand 1: 39.620% 38.81% 00.81% 15957843 335105.00 { random }
Hand 2: 39.620% 38.81% 00.81% 15957843 335105.00 { random }


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Old 11-20-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

Wow. Thank you.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

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Wow. Thank you.

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I was also suprised the first time I saw stoves like this. How quikly AK loses value UI.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

Um, there are a LOT of hands that you must remove from that calculation and many if not most of them are the ones that eats equity.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:08 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

Sushi, yeah...you cant just assign random values here. but still....this not what I expected. seriously.

I think in this spot you need to show variation. Sometimes I bet sometimes I check.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: AKo UI versus Lags

The main problem with this hand is it's 3handed with what seems a fish (given his PF play) in the middle. If HU this is an ez bet due to the fact OTB will peel all OC's on that flop.

UTG may have caught a piece of the flop or has a small pp &amp; will showdown, but then again he could have K9/Q9/QJ/65/54 ne non paired Ace cept maybe AJ+.

If we decide to check, it's an ez fold if UTG bets. However OTB if laggy will bet his entire range on the turn &amp; you will not have a clue where u are.

IMO these are horrible spots &amp; I'm not exactly sure what the best play is however I like betting &amp; seeing what UTG does. If he calls I c/f river UI if he bets river, if he folds I'm going to SD against OTB.
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