***OFFICIAL*** uNL BBV thread: September - Page 13

NL Newbie · #**121** 09-12-2007, 10:30 AM

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the last one is really sick, the next to last one is that $5 on the river a blocking bet?

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Me beoing a donk.

I dunno where in that hand, i knew he was aggro and loose. He tuned out to be 70/20/1 but that 3 kinda [censored] me...

Then he shoves, Uhh i dunno wtf to do there. Shoulda bet flop [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Chomp · #**122** 09-12-2007, 10:31 AM

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Chomp, OPEN SHOVE THE FLOP on that first aces hand!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...second hand is fine

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Nah mate...as I wrote above..."He also fell for the slighly-less-than-shove on the flop, which is a trick that gets calls from monkeys all the time."

crazyJohn · #**123** 09-12-2007, 11:58 AM

The biggest pots i lost today, these standard?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $58.45
BB: $25.00
UTG: $19.95
CO: $22.25
BTN: $38.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.20, Hero calls $1.10, BB calls $0.95, CO calls $0.95
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Flop: ($4.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB folds, CO raises to $5.00, BTN folds, Hero raises to $19.80, CO calls $14.80

Turn: ($44.40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $37.45, CO calls all-in for $1.25
Uncalled bet of $36.20 returned to Hero

River: ($46.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $46.90 ($2.30 Rake)

CO had 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Sevens) and WON (+$22.35)
Hero had 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Threes) and LOST (-$22.25)

Hero (SB): $25.10
BB: $89.85
UTG: $27.15
CO: $23.80
BTN: $54.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.15, BB calls $1.00, UTG calls $1.00

Flop: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.75, BB calls $4.00

Turn: ($18.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10.00, Hero raises all-in to $17.10, BB calls $7.10

River: ($52.70) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $52.70 ($2.60 Rake)

BB had 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Queen high) and WON (+$25.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Fives) and LOST (-$25.10)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $24.75
BB: $9.70
UTG: $9.30
MP: $26.90
Hero (CO): $24.65
BTN: $28.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75, UTG raises all-in to $8.45, Hero calls $6.70, BB folds

Turn: ($21.30) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($21.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.30 ($1.05 Rake)

UTG had 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$10.95)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$9.30)

NL Newbie · #**124** 09-12-2007, 12:28 PM

Crazy john, bit of fancy play syndrome there i think.

Dont check when villan can have wide ranges on 2flush board - your giving away money.

QJ hand is meh, i hate BB behing behind me and calling with what might be T9 - Calling/folding both ok IMO. your not a huge favourite, if BB was full stacked i'd lean towards fold.

jk1986 · #**125** 09-12-2007, 01:39 PM

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Chomp, OPEN SHOVE THE FLOP on that first aces hand!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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...second hand is fine

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Nah mate...as I wrote above..."He also fell for the slighly-less-than-shove on the flop, which is a trick that gets calls from monkeys all the time."

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It makes no difference, making that flop bet is exactly the same as shoving since he's never folding the turn; and if Chomp thinks it will get more calls than shoving then its got to be the most +EV move..

sweetwater · #**126** 09-12-2007, 01:56 PM

PokerStars Game #12017421980: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/09/12 - 13:52:48 (ET)
Table 'Ascanios III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Van Gomez ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: inola2000 ($14 in chips)
Seat 3: tguth ($12.40 in chips)
Seat 4: lukas81177 ($6.40 in chips)
Seat 5: au_webstju ($39.30 in chips)
lukas81177: posts small blind $0.10
au_webstju: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to au_webstju [Ah Ad]
Van Gomez: raises $1.25 to $1.50
CSebek joins the table at seat #6
inola2000: folds
tguth: calls $1.50
lukas81177: folds
au_webstju: raises $6.50 to $8
Van Gomez: calls $6.50
tguth: raises $4.40 to $12.40 and is all-in
au_webstju: calls $4.40
Van Gomez: calls $4.40
*** FLOP *** [9d 5d Kh]
au_webstju: bets $13
Van Gomez: calls $12.35 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9d 5d Kh] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [9d 5d Kh 5s] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
au_webstju: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
Van Gomez: shows [Jd Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
au_webstju collected $24.55 from side pot
tguth: mucks hand
tguth leaves the table
au_webstju collected $35.45 from main pot
Van Gomez leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $62 Main pot $35.45. Side pot $24.55. | Rake $2
Board [9d 5d Kh 5s Tc]
Seat 1: Van Gomez showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 2: inola2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tguth (button) mucked [6c Qs]
Seat 4: lukas81177 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: au_webstju (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won ($60) with two pair, Aces and Fives

bknollenberg · #**127** 09-12-2007, 02:13 PM

Q6os.. he probably thought he had much fold equity..

corsakh · #**128** 09-12-2007, 02:56 PM

So sick. Coolers, coolers, coolers. Every single hand gets sucked out, absolutely nothing holds. 12BI down and counting, this must be my biggest downswing since 5nl times a year ago [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

QQ < AK on a rag flop
AK < QQ on Axx flop
AK < 78s on A7x flop
22 < 32 on 2xx flop
QJ < Tx on QJx flop
AhQh < KQo on Th9h8 flop
Obviously KK < AA, Aces broken and sets over sets
Plus ton of lost coinflips and hands I don't remember.

Mr_Pathetic · #**129** 09-12-2007, 03:21 PM

This is what happens when nothing holds and you try to outplay fools. 7.7 buyins and counting. Only ~2 in tilt/trying to outplay. I had a solid heater going too....

Upgrade_U · #**130** 09-12-2007, 04:26 PM

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The biggest pots i lost today, these standard?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $58.45
BB: $25.00
UTG: $19.95
CO: $22.25
BTN: $38.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.20, Hero calls $1.10, BB calls $0.95, CO calls $0.95
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Flop: ($4.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB folds, CO raises to $5.00, BTN folds, Hero raises to $19.80, CO calls $14.80

Turn: ($44.40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $37.45, CO calls all-in for $1.25
Uncalled bet of $36.20 returned to Hero

River: ($46.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $46.90 ($2.30 Rake)

CO had 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Sevens) and WON (+$22.35)
Hero had 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Threes) and LOST (-$22.25)

Hero (SB): $25.10
BB: $89.85
UTG: $27.15
CO: $23.80
BTN: $54.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.15, BB calls $1.00, UTG calls $1.00

Flop: ($5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.75, BB calls $4.00

Turn: ($18.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10.00, Hero raises all-in to $17.10, BB calls $7.10

River: ($52.70) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $52.70 ($2.60 Rake)

BB had 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Queen high) and WON (+$25.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Fives) and LOST (-$25.10)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $24.75
BB: $9.70
UTG: $9.30
MP: $26.90
Hero (CO): $24.65
BTN: $28.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75, UTG raises all-in to $8.45, Hero calls $6.70, BB folds

Turn: ($21.30) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($21.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.30 ($1.05 Rake)

UTG had 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$10.95)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$9.30)

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You got your money in when it was good, what else is there to think about ?