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Old 02-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Big Draw oop

Opponent isnīt one of the regulars, so likely some sort of fish. 34 vpip, 14 pfr.

Not really sure what to make of his flop raise, doesnīt seem like he should have a strong made hand here as he should be raising more to get money in vs overpairs, get draws to push or price them out. However, some of them do it anyway and I think I have an easy +EV call on the flop, so not sure if I should 3bet and open up for a push.

Unsure about the other streets aswell.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($754)
BB ($663)
Hero ($1433.75)
MP ($722.75)
CO ($1707.66)
Button ($423.42)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, MP calls $21, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($51) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $72</font>, Hero calls $36.

Turn: ($195) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, MP calls $150.

River: ($495) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

ugly ugly turn bet

id check and decide (depends on a few factors but raise call fold all have merit depending.)
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

I'm not leading turn after being raised on the flop. Your draw is too sexy to risk getting raised off it, especially by a guy who is very likely to pay you off. I'd check-call turn and reevaluate river.

River bet is awful. It's too small and it's much too likely that he has a Jack. You're spewing.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

I prefer a check on the turn, and C/R if he bets.

And WTF with this river bet.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:50 PM
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Leading the turn is possibly the worst thing you can do. If you think he's weak check/raise him, if he checks fire river.
My standard line would be to check-call, you have alot of nice outs which are likely to get paid off, and getting good odds.
River bet, UGLY.
Nothing you beat folds and your getting re raised alot.
Bet3/4 of pot if ure gonna bet.
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

Makes sense, thanks.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

C/R turn or C/R river, I don't like a lead on either street
I like a three bet on the flop more than a turn lead
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:43 AM
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Pretty sure he has a Jack here and this is a bad river bet. Unless you put him exactly on QTss, KTss, or 8Tss, don't try to bluff this river. I would c/c turn and c/f river personally, to try to minimize losses when missing. I used to play this kind of kamikaze poker, and I was always bluffing into a big hand by betting on cards like this that are villain's most likely holding.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

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ugly ugly turn bet

id check and decide (depends on a few factors but raise call fold all have merit depending.)

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I agree although unless he like shoves I never fold here, even if he full pots you can't really fold.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Big Draw oop

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ugly ugly turn bet

id check and decide (depends on a few factors but raise call fold all have merit depending.)

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I agree although unless he like shoves I never fold here, even if he full pots you can't really fold.

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yeah i know [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] fold is literally like 2% here bc no one overbets in these spots (when you check)
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