Play a hand with me (NLTRN)

[Dromar]

Hand 46

Blinds are now 50/100.

(SB)Villain 2570
(BB)Hero 430

Villain posts 50, Hero posts 100. Hero has J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 2570 (all-in). Hero calls.

Board: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Villain has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Villain wins.

[Dromar]

Here is a list of all the hands dealt in the tournament, as per request.

Hand 1:
Hero 7c5c
Villain Qs3d

Hand 2:
Hero 3c3d
Villain QsTc
Board Qh8c4d

Hand 3:
Hero Td6c
Villain 9s6h

Hand 4:
Hero 5s5h
Villain 8s4h

Hand 5:
Hero AsTc
Villain Kd9d
Board AhKc6cKh3s

Hand 6:
Hero 4c5s
Villain Qh9h

Hand 7:
Hero Qc9c
Villain 3s5s
Board 8sTsKd

Hand 8:
Hero Js5c
Villain Kh7d
Board Qc8d4d

Hand 9:
Hero 7s3c
Villain 3h2s

Hand 10:
Hero As7d
Villain 9s5d

Hand 11:
Hero Qc6c
Villain Ad8h
Board 6d5cTd

Hand 12:
Hero 9c2c
Villain Kd5h
Board 7d3h7h

Hand 13:
Hero 9d2c
Villain Ts9h

Hand 14:
Hero 5h4s
Villain 9h7d

Hand 15:
Hero KhQh
Villain 7h2d

Hand 16:
Hero 9s5h
Villain Js3c

Hand 17:
Hero AsQs
Villain Ks5d

Hand 18:
Hero Qc2s
Villain 8h6c

Hand 19:
Hero Qd3s
Villain Js3h

Hand 20:
Hero 8c5d
Villain Ah3h

Hand 21:
Hero Ah4h
Villain Kd6s

Hand 22:
Hero 5s6s
Villain Qd5c
Board 7d7c9d

Hand 23:
Hero 8s6h
Villain 7s2d

Hand 24:
Hero 8c6s
Villain 9c8h
Board Ah3d7s

Hand 25:
Hero Jd6d
Villain 8d6s

Hand 26:
Hero 9c6s
Villain QcTh

Hand 27:
Hero 7d6c
Villain 5d5s
Board 3c4hJsJc

Hand 28:
Hero 8d2s
Villain Kc9c

Hand 29:
Hero AcKd
Villain 9d5d
Board Ts5cKs

Hand 30:
Hero Kc3c
Villain Jd2c

Hand 31:
Hero Ks7h
Villain 8c8d

Hand 32:
Hero 4s2c
Villain 6h4h

Hand 33:
Hero 8h5d
Villain Jd5c

Hand 34:
Hero Jc5h
Villain Ks9s

Hand 35:
Hero 8h2c
Villain AhTs

Hand 36:
Hero 9h2d
Villain Ts5d

Hand 37:
Hero 9c5h
Villain Qd5d

Hand 38:
Hero Kc6h
Villain 4s3h

Hand 39:
Hero Qd8h
Villain 6s4h

Hand 40:
Hero Jd8h
Villain Ks4s

Hand 41:
Hero JsTc
Villain Qs8s
Board 4s5d7d

Hand 42:
Hero 8d5c
Villain AsJd

Hand 43:
Hero 9c9d
Villain 6h3h

Hand 44:
Hero 9c5c
Villain Ac4d

Hand 45:
Hero 7h4d
Villain QdQh

Hand 46:
Hero Js8d
Villain Kh3h
Board 6cAsKd9sQd


This doesn't necessarily mean the end of the thread. Specifically, I'm very interested in hand #2, where (at the time of the voting) the vote decisions were very split between all four options (bet, c/f, c/c, c/r). I'm sure there are a couple other hands that may be worth discussing after the fact as well.

[chrismystero]

Great thread, Dromar.

I, like the vast majority of this thread most likely, would love to see another one of these.'

FWIW, personally, I don't think there was a flaw with the way you structured the thread. I personally think it would be better to vote- then discuss, rather than discuss- then vote. Voting first allows people to give their unbiased opinion on each hand rather than being swayed by the comments of a regular poster. Also, if people vote first and are wrong, I think it is better for them in the Long Run anyways because they can learn from their mistakes by continuing to read the discussion that follows the poll.

I wouldn't be opposed to changing the structure of the thread, just saying I think it's perfect the way it is.

chrismystero

[mb6tour]

Nice post Dromar.

I agree that is not an ATC call here.

In the 74o if you do the calculations with +75 instead of +50 you'll get -11EV (and assuming he'll call with 50% you get -32EV), and I think that combined with the fact that the next hand blinds are going up, this hand can be pushed, altought I agree it's a marginal play. Obviously villain had queens so he wasn't going anywhere, but that doesn't matter.

I give it to you that I'm convinced a fold is a good play there.

[mb6tour]

These 2 last hands are bugging me...

If you think that I'm still discussing it because I can't give up my push move, you're right.

My point is that on a HU match winner takes all so doesn't matter the absolute EV of each play but the increase on your chance to win the tournament.

You guys have a lot more knowledge of HU SnG's so please explain to me why I'm wrong in that case or at all by saying what I did.