2/4 nl deep play-along, interesting spot

[Surf]

2/4 nl, 800 eff stacks.

utg folds, I raise A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to $16 from the HJ, co (fish) ccs, button reraises to $70,
folded back to me.

Some info on button:

He's kind of a lagtard, 45/20ish, and i've seen him 3bet a wide range of hands, stuff like 77-TT, AJ, some suited stuff - things he should probably be seeing a flop with given how bad most of the other players are at this table. He's squeezed in similar spots before without getting caught. Arguments for calling? Reraising?

Hero...?

Surf

[TheWorstPlayer]

I'd call to keep the fish in. If the fish were a TAG, I'd re-raise.

[berserk]

What is your plan TWP if you 4bet (assuming a TAG instead of a fish) and button pushes / 5bets / calls?

[Whisper]

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I'd call to keep the fish in. If the fish were a TAG, I'd re-raise.

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This is good thinking, but i think he needs to be very fish, stackin off with TP any kicker for this to be good. I highly doubt he is going to fold to the repop pf tho, i almsot always see them call along here. I would mostly 4 bet because he is so loose, if he pushes your just sad.

[DJ Sensei]

Call because of stack sizes. getting 5-bet blows, as does getting your 4-bet called and missing. If getting your stack in preflop isnt reasonable or desirable, then don't 4-bet.

Plus if you call, the fish probably will too, and then you can maybe take his monies as well if you have him dominated.

[Surf]

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Call because of stack sizes. getting 5-bet blows, as does getting your 4-bet called and missing. If getting your stack in preflop isnt reasonable or desirable, then don't 4-bet.

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Yeah, I didn't realize this at the time but 4betting and getting called suuuuuuuuuuucks because of stack sizes.

So, I obliviously 4bet to ~$200, fish folds, lag thinks for a moment and calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

*barf*

My action?

A little other extra info: I had been surprised a few times in the past by how light he calls pot-sized 3bets preflop, both in and out of position. I thought(eternal optimism?) that he'd react in a more sane fashion to my 4bet preflop, but it's entirely possible that he called here with 77-TT or something like 87s. Implied odds analyses etc aren't exactly his forte.

Surf

[DJ Sensei]

either c/f or bet 1/2 pot. without reads that he calls the 4-bet mad light, its a c/f.

[Surf]

Okay, so pf was ugly - now that I've gotten to the turn - is it worth firing a bet to get him off a small-mid PP / the other AK? This pot is biiiiiig now, and checking down to let him win UI w/ 66 or 88 seems like a crime, no?

Surf

[Isura]

I think PF is fine, deep and you put immense pressure on like QQ or lower pairs. And usually he has jack [censored] and you win a nice pot PF. Against most players, flop is a check/fold. BUt this guy seems like he'd see a flop with a fairly wide range, i think 220 on the flop has a positive expectation.

[cts]

I take a stab on the flop. Don't like preflop though.