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Old 11-15-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Small 4-Bets

I've been away for a while and really want to know...

What is up with these TAGs making tiny 4-bets in 2/4 NL??

So many players are raising my $46, $48, and $50 3-bets to anywhere between $100 and $120. Is there some kind of strategy behind this (maybe leaving room to fold to a push?) or is it just a trend? All I know is that they're getting owned pretty hard.

I'm genuinely confused.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:30 PM
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You can blame CTS for this. Oh and please tell me how you're owning them.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Small 4-Bets

To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be?
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:35 PM
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To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be?

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Put a man to a decision for all his chips!
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:37 PM
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To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be?

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Put a man to a decision for all his chips!

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Lol. It depends on style. Some people just 4-bet shove. Some people 4-bet small (like 2-2.5 times the 3-bet), some people 4-bet pot sized.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:40 PM
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To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be?

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Put a man to a decision for all his chips!

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Lol. It depends on style. Some people just 4-bet shove. Some people 4-bet small (like 2-2.5 times the 3-bet), some people 4-bet pot sized.

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This is the only one I can't see any merit to.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:57 PM
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To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be?

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Put a man to a decision for all his chips!

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Lol. It depends on style. Some people just 4-bet shove. Some people 4-bet small (like 2-2.5 times the 3-bet), some people 4-bet pot sized.

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This is the only one I can't see any merit to.

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stack sizes don't matter at all eh?
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:57 PM
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You can blame CTS for this. Oh and please tell me how you're owning them.

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Call and hit obv.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Small 4-Bets

more common is making it ~3x the 3bet imo ($150-$160). making it 60 or 70 on top is pretty terrible unless villain is too stupid to call.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: Small 4-Bets

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To be clear, how big are you saying the 4-bet should be?

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Put a man to a decision for all his chips!

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Lol. It depends on style. Some people just 4-bet shove. Some people 4-bet small (like 2-2.5 times the 3-bet), some people 4-bet pot sized.

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This is the only one I can't see any merit to.

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stack sizes don't matter at all eh?

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Obviously my statement was intended to be a firm law that applies to any possible situation.
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