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Old 08-28-2007, 06:45 PM
Irishman07 Irishman07 is offline
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Default top pair facing weird line

Villain is 35/3/1.2 over just 65 hands. His line has me pretty confused. On the turn I didn't want to let him draw cheap, but should I just call this? What do you put him on after his river shove?

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Hero ($394)
MP ($254.60)
Button ($516.10)
SB ($544.20)
BB ($546.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($44) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, Button folds, BB calls $32.

Turn: ($108) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $120</font>, BB calls $95.

River: ($348) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $380.2 (All-In)</font> Hero ???
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Old 08-28-2007, 07:12 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

I call this and expect to see missed spades a good 30% of the time. He could have a weirdly played set but I dunno. He could also show up with AK/AQ I think, but I still think it's a call although it's probably pretty close to neutral EV.
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Old 08-28-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

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I call this and expect to see missed spades a good 30% of the time. He could have a weirdly played set but I dunno. He could also show up with AK/AQ I think, but I still think it's a call although it's probably pretty close to neutral EV.

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I think this is right. Doubt he is ever vbetting worse. The question is does he have a missed flush draw that he shoves enough here? I think I fold since this is so close therefore I can reduce variance.
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Old 08-28-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

I think this is very player dependent. If he is any good than its a difficult because he has to know his line is so strange and expects a call. With no history, I think its a call, but I wouldnt be surprised to see a weird hand like Ks2s or 2s3s. The turn is so strange, if he was weak-leading for a bluff induce then he didnt do anything once you raised. And as played its so obviously a draw, even if this wasnt a call, its so weird I would have to see it and call anyway.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

call and expect to beat missed spades or lost to missed spades that have a 2 like hustler said.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

fold
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

Anyone have a problem with the turn raise?
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

At first I thought calling would be best, but after a second look on villians stats and this river shove I suppose he will show 2cXc. So, fold.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: top pair facing weird line

i call this pretty quickly...id be amazed if this isn't spades soooo much of the time.
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