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Old 08-22-2007, 08:16 PM
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Default 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

When i think about that hand i can find arguments to fold preflop. He runs 11/10/3.5 and on the other site i can find a call preflop and make an argument for the bet on the flop.


I have 2500, he has me covered.

Can my Queens be good here?
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Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $80</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $270</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $666</font>, 2 folds, hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1442, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $700</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $2811</font>, hero??
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

Every time I call, I lose.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

stack szises?

with normal stacks agaist what nit easy fold preflop you see AA or KK about 99% ot the time
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

Why do u bet the flop? To fold out AK? If i bet the flop, then only to induce a shove from worse. Its not like u have to protect ur hand imo...

fwiw, i dont play 10/20, maybe someone else can explain the reason for betting this flop vs this kind of Villain.
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:12 AM
freeucm freeucm is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

I think u let this go preflop. These screams KK AA. Maybe even JJ.

I dont see how we play this hand on flop with a check and if he bets now what? Is folding out of question, do we call?

Im confused since he has shown much strength preflop and is saying he has KK AA, we have to bet here dont we on flop to see where were at otherwise were loosing information? If we call where does that leave us on turn, to check fold? Then why bother calling flop unless we check raise?
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:33 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

"He runs 11/10/3.5"

yeah, this i fold pf very fast
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

wow 11/10 exists?
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

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Im confused since he has shown much strength preflop and is saying he has KK AA, we have to bet here dont we on flop to see where were at otherwise were loosing information? If we call where does that leave us on turn, to check fold? Then why bother calling flop unless we check raise?

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Old 08-23-2007, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

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Im confused since he has shown much strength preflop and is saying he has KK AA, we have to bet here dont we on flop to see where were at otherwise were loosing information? If we call where does that leave us on turn, to check fold? Then why bother calling flop unless we check raise?

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Im just asking if there are other lines then firing on this flop.

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Old 08-23-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ \"total lost\"

I don't play at these limits but I like to read your posts, they teach a lot... Just one question, what the hell does "11/10/3.5" mean? I see that very often but I don't get the stats behind it? Tx
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