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Old 09-14-2007, 10:22 AM
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My apoligies, to much AIM conversations and lack of english courses.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:21 AM
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I havent played these guys, but the only time Ive really suspected foul play was again Mark Seif.....who Stuckinpgh blogged about similar bizarre happenings. Given how much Seif has lost in the past couple of years, it's probably unlikely that anything more than he just went on a 1 in 50,000 run against me, but it was mighty odd.

All1n that hand is odd, do u have your entire session v. him available for us to take a look at??

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Dean,

I dont think Seif was cheating in anyway....you play like he did though and its bound to look like it sometimes. But seriously, has anyone ever tried to figure what he dumped onto that site? In my two yrs or so there I wouldnt be suprised it it was like half a mil.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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and anyone who is clever enough to hack the [censored] a site, i would expect would be clever enough to play in a way that doesnt set off any warning bells.

it's really not hard for them to just play straight forward and crush the games making the occasional brilliant fold, perfectly timed bluff raise, or other things that nobody would notice.

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I don't agree with this. I think that a likely scenario is that the hackers were not particularly well versed in online poker (playing even a "standard" looking game is not something that comes easily). Somebody who is already taking lots of money out of poker is probably overall less likely to spend time trying to beat the software. I think that for anyone who hasn't been a long term poker player/gambler the urge to take the money quickly would be unsurmountable.

I think this also explains the chip dumping - a move that seems absurdly stupid to any regular player.

It must be extremely unlikely that Absolute missed the chip dumping activity, so I would suspect they are doing their own investigations right now.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:44 AM
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I think that the explanation to all of this are rich gamblers.

These players are obviously lucky guys with lots of money to burn and "chip dumping" to them is normal, because in case they are investigated, they could care less. They probably think that their high limit play is untouchable.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:08 PM
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This seems unlikely, but maybe this has something to do with pokertracker being hacked? I don't know when it was first hacked, but it's possible they get a trojan in there and people updated their PT and got it. And so they can see a few players hole cards?

seems unlikely, but I thought worth throwing out there.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:10 PM
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This seems unlikely, but maybe this has something to do with pokertracker being hacked? I don't know when it was first hacked, but it's possible they get a trojan in there and people updated their PT and got it. And so they can see a few players hole cards?

seems unlikely, but I thought worth throwing out there.

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I can recall seeing steamroller as long ago as 6-8 months I think.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:10 PM
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I think that the explanation to all of this are rich gamblers.

These players are obviously lucky guys with lots of money to burn and "chip dumping" to them is normal, because in case they are investigated, they could care less. They probably think that their high limit play is untouchable.

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Hi greycat
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:12 PM
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Myself and Brad L looked at a chunk of the hands that Brad had played against Graycat last night. There is almost no question in my mind that something is very wrong. I would not play on Absolute, period.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:14 PM
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Allin,

I agree they are prob already looking into it, but has anyone actually contacted them about it?

AP support is a bit dumb sometimes
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:16 PM
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Didn't steamroller used to be a big fish/loser in the 10/20 15/30 or 25/50 back in may june july?
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