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Old 11-28-2007, 02:21 PM
ChuckyB ChuckyB is offline
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

In truth, without a read I pee myself when he re-raises pot on the turn (at the 100 level). That's where I fold. Plenty of people won't bet QQ on that flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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In truth, without a read I pee myself when he re-raises pot on the turn (at the 100 level). That's where I fold. Plenty of people won't bet QQ on that flop.

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Wouldnt QQ atleast bet out on the turn?
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH

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Yeah, shove river.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH

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QQ, Q8, and 88 play the hand like this (98 if he's spewy).

We beat one of those.

If this flop was 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

And it checked around.

Then the turn was the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Then let's say you bet with the Q high flush and got raised... are you calling and then raising a blank river when bet into? No.

The only difference is that there is a chance that someone plays Q8 as if it is the nuts. But that's why we call the river (as opposed to the flush hand where a river fold is usually correct).
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

I play exactly as seen.. Looks good on all streets. Too many players on teh flop to bet out IMO.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH

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QQ, Q8, and 88 play the hand like this (98 if he's spewy).

We beat one of those.

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Ok, but there is one 88, three QQ and six Q8. Assuming he plays all these hands the same, which I think most people does, Q8 is much more likely than QQ and 88.

I don't think your analogy is any good. It's very likely that someone holds the A high flush, so we fold. In hold em it's much less likely that people have the nuts, so we play accordingly ...

If we can't shove the river here, we should fold the turn, since the pot is relatively small and villain's hand range hasn't changed between the turn and river.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

Snap call for 38bb...Dance if you win, reload if you lose...on to the next hand
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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In truth, without a read I pee myself when he re-raises pot on the turn (at the 100 level). That's where I fold. Plenty of people won't bet QQ on that flop.

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Wouldnt QQ atleast bet out on the turn?

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Wouldn't QQ c/r the turn knowing that the danger of having it checked through is minimal compared to the potential profit of a sweet check-raise?
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