Stud8 - Kinda-steal with kinda-ok hand in kinda-ok spot

[xxeximusxx]

This whole hand is so opponent dependent...

if villian isn't going to fold a pair of nines or stop chasing to a low then i'd just dump it on third.

[roggles]

I actually thought I had an equity advantage against a pair of nines on third [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] It's just that a pair of nines sucks so hard. I guess maybe it sucks more out of a metagame perspective?

[Andy B]

AQ2 sucks pretty hard too.

[Andy B]

I think you played it fine apart from the initial call.

[roggles]

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I think you played it fine apart from the initial call.

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I didn't call. So do you advocate folding in this spot? I think that seems pretty bad ...

[Hamlet]

I think 3rd is a fold. You have a trash hand. You can't steal the antes, as someone has entered the pot, albeit with a hand that may actually be worse than yours.

The two factors that make it a fold:

1. The Rake. Any edge you might have against the limper's worse trash will be eaten by the rake.

2. The bring-in could have a hand. If he does, you've put yourself in a money-losing spot.

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I think you played it fine apart from the initial call.

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I didn't call. So do you advocate folding in this spot? I think that seems pretty bad ...

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[roggles]

Actually, I had a note on seat 4 that said he had limped and folded on 3rd when I raised an ace in steal position earlier. I should have mentioned this I guess

[ChipsAhoya]

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AQ2 sucks pretty hard too.

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I've found that these "maybe two-way" hands really really suck in Stud8, so you have to be REALLY careful playing them...

However in this hand you are a very slight equity dog vs. 998 (46%) and with all the dead kings I think it's definitely a reasonable play here since you can have him make mistakes on later streets.

-ChipsAhoya