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Old 11-25-2007, 06:48 PM
Magaca Magaca is offline
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Default Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

Villain was 62/2/1.69 over 45 hands.

This guy isn't very aggressive, so as soon as he clickraiset i knew he liked his hand, but i still raised cause i had an overpair. When he shoved i was getting 3-to-1 and called. Is getting it in here std.?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $12.55
UTG: $14.90
CO: $9.85
BTN: $9.50
SB: $4.85

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.60</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.85</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $9.10 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $5.25
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

I would fold this hand, I don't think he is doing this with tptk and your beat against a bunchload of hands he could have
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

"I would fold this hand"

Where?

To his click-raise or his all-in?
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

In English it is min-raise, I think in Danish (?) it is clickraise.

Anyway, I think I call the flop and check the turn. Then see what he does.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

Oh sorry. I am actually danish. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Well, don't you think we are missing value by not threebetting?
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

Trying to put villain on a hand here and i come up with JT - AT, set of Ts or 6s, JJ. I doubt he would have limped in AA or KK. AK of clubs is somewhat possible as he is reasoning could be he has two big overs to the board plus the nut flush draw, but i doubt this is his holding.
He certainly has a hand he likes here, but it looks like you are ahead.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

First of all 1.69 on a 62 vpip is fairly aggressive. (45 hands isn't much but things will converge faster when you play 62% of your hands)

Second I would never lay down QQ as an over pair against a terrible player because while he can have us beat he can also have flush draws, straight draws (a 62 vpip can felt a gutshot), all sorts of top pair hands, some 99/88/JJ and air .

I'd raise slightly more pf and I'd just shove over his cr to induce the largest mistake when he's behind and willing to put more in.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

This seems to be close, lot's of diffrent replys.

I'd like some more please. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

I'm usually not getting it in here without some sort of a better read on villain; e.g. seeing him felt top pair or raise a flush draw like this.

Just call, bet turn and see what he does. If he raises you again, I'd probably say lay this down.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Nl10, QQ clickraised on flop.

this is a flop bet/3bet and shove or call shove and it's not even close. his range here is huge and you beat most all draws and quite a bit of made hands. with his PFR so low you can add JJ to this range and this makes it much easier to just play for stacks here.
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