50PLO: Turn play, top two OSED

jpg7n16 · #1 09-04-2007, 02:24 PM

Opponent was 47/17.6/2.0 over less than 50 hands. He usually would fold to my c-bets, but here he flat calls.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($60.60)
BB ($10)
UTG ($49.75)
MP ($48.50)
Hero ($142.25)
Button ($146.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, Button calls $2.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.75.

Flop: ($7.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $5.5, Button calls $5.50, MP folds.

Turn: ($18.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10.5??

Here I chose to go w/ a bet/fold line - so I bet what I'd bet w/ the J9xx. Bet sizing okay?

Are check/call or check/fold better options?

cts · #2 09-04-2007, 03:30 PM

The bet size is really bad he's not folding a straight or a big draw, it's just a bad spot to continue at all imo. If the flop was rainbow I'd probably check it, but since it has a flush draw that you don't have your draw isn't that great so I'd bet and not be too upset if I got raised off of it.

CrushinFelt · #3 09-04-2007, 05:42 PM

You probably shouldn't be betting $10.5 here with J9xx and $5.5 on the flop is no different than $7.5 so why not just make it $7.50?

Your stats don't really mean anything over 50 hands, so I probably c/c or c/f if I'm not willing to fire out a PSB.

getitfixed · #4 09-04-2007, 05:46 PM

Fire a PSB on the turn... That will look more like a protection bet... I'm re-potting you most times with your weak turn lead....Your bet was about the worst option I can see here.... PSB>C/F>C/C>small lead

jpg7n16 · #5 09-04-2007, 10:32 PM

$10.50 to me was supposed to say "hey this pot's getting big and you probably won't call a PSB, but I want you to call cause I have a great hand and you won't have odds for a flush"

and it actually said "I'm weak as crap and don't want to play a big pot"

apparently my bet size was total crap

but if I did have J9... I would have gotten the reaction I wanted from getitfixed.

getitfixed · #6 09-05-2007, 09:06 AM

If you "really" had j-9, would you play it that weak? If so, I think you need to rework your strat., on a drawy board, I wouldn't suggest inviting people to run you down.

jpg7n16 · #7 09-05-2007, 11:31 AM

Yes actually. 10.50 was still a pretty big bet the way the game was going, and if I potted it they would just fold - correctly. The only hands that would give action to a PSB would be a tied straight or one w/ a redraw.

The pot readout on PokerStars said somethin like 17, so it's low end between 1/2 to 2/3 PSB which gives a flush draw incorrect odds to call, but at least this bet size would get action from hands that I'm currently beating (if I had J9)

Or at least that's what I was thinking at the time.

jpg7n16 · #8 09-05-2007, 11:25 PM

And with my newfound knowledge about my bet size, I thought I'd try this on for style one hand, it didn't work on the turn, so I tried again on the river:

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($106.40)
Button ($38.95)
SB ($47.75)
BB ($48.50)
Hero ($64.15)
MP ($58.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, CO calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.5, CO calls $5.50, SB folds.

Turn: ($16.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10.5, CO calls $10.50.

River: ($37.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10.5, CO raises to $67.45, Hero calls $35.90 (All-In).

Final Pot: $130.55

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jd Kd Qh 9h (full house, queens full of nines).

CO showed Kc 5h Qc Ah and lost with a full house, Queens full of Fives

Outcome: Hero wins $130.55. CO wins $21.05.