X-Post Absolute Poker Hole Card Cheating

[Papi Shasho]

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Why just the hole cards? Why not see the hole flop? Are each card randomly choosen for the flop then turn then river? Why couldn't they see everthing?

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I'm assuming because there's an RNG, so they can only see the cards that have been dealt.

Being able to see the turn and river ahead of time would be the equivalent to the cheaters knowing what cards their opponents will get dealt NEXT hand.

The cards ARE dealt randomly, including the pocket cards, flop, turn, and river, but the cheaters can also see the ones they aren't supposed to see (pocket cards).

[GiantWalleye]

I have been playing on AP since 2004. I have had some nasty and rediculous things happen to me in the cash games, though I have no way of knowing if it was directly related to this. Either way I just cashed out all of my money off of AP and unless I hear some positive things that this is taken care of, I will never deposit on there again. Time to go back to where I started. Stars here I come.

[e_phemeral]

Bump. Why is this, and the numerous other threads in the different forums on the same subject, not getting more attention? The mods at 2+2 are making serious posts about cheating at Absolute Poker. This is serious sh*t.

[rafiki]

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Bump. Why is this, and the numerous other threads in the different forums on the same subject, not getting more attention? The mods at 2+2 are making serious posts about cheating at Absolute Poker. This is serious sh*t.

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QFT

I think the hope is that people just leave Absolute, and rely on more reputable sites from now on.

[Super Tool]

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Bump. Why is this, and the numerous other threads in the different forums on the same subject, not getting more attention? The mods at 2+2 are making serious posts about cheating at Absolute Poker. This is serious sh*t.

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Because everyone in the past who brought up allegations of cheating/foul play in online poker, has always been shot down, shunned, and mocked by any poker forum... Why is this one any different?

Nothing will be done about it either way... We'll all forget this happened and go on playing on sites we ASSUME are safer, but are probably doing the same things...

Where are the tin foil hat pictures btw?

[burningyen]

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Bump. Why is this, and the numerous other threads in the different forums on the same subject, not getting more attention? The mods at 2+2 are making serious posts about cheating at Absolute Poker. This is serious sh*t.

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Because everyone in the past who brought up allegations of cheating/foul play in online poker, has always been shot down, shunned, and mocked by any poker forum... Why is this one any different?

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Because this time the people making these claims actually have a brain.

[traxamillion]

What phazes me is that I have honestly always believed that online poker was legit. Now I know it has been compromised. I would like to believe that this was an isolated incident at AP involving a breach in security but we are likely never to know. At this point I will obviously keep playin online poker as will most people. However, for people coming into this game in the future if they hear this story I can almost guarantee they will not get involved. For all the fish that say "it's rigged" they don't really know its rigged or truly believe that but it is their scapegoat for losing. Now they can be 100% sure and that may keep them out of games.

[e_phemeral]

I think the only solution is for everyone to leave Absolute. Given that all of these sites are all offshore with no regulatory oversight, the only way for players to ensure that the games are legit is to monitor this sort of thing collectively themselves and move $ off of sites that have recognized security breaches and do nothing about it. The worst outcome is for nothing to come of this - smarter cheaters who may have the access to the same breaches as these cheaters will just continue to cheat, but will do it smartly so it is not as obvious. If people do not have faith in the legitimacy of the games, they will take their money to the live casinos instead.

[Botchman]

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Bump. Why is this, and the numerous other threads in the different forums on the same subject, not getting more attention? The mods at 2+2 are making serious posts about cheating at Absolute Poker. This is serious sh*t.

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Because everyone in the past who brought up allegations of cheating/foul play in online poker, has always been shot down, shunned, and mocked by any poker forum... Why is this one any different?

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Because this time the people making these claims actually have a brain.

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Yes if your name is not green youu don't have a brain. Dont you know this???

[jman220]

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Bump. Why is this, and the numerous other threads in the different forums on the same subject, not getting more attention? The mods at 2+2 are making serious posts about cheating at Absolute Poker. This is serious sh*t.

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Because everyone in the past who brought up allegations of cheating/foul play in online poker, has always been shot down, shunned, and mocked by any poker forum... Why is this one any different?

Nothing will be done about it either way... We'll all forget this happened and go on playing on sites we ASSUME are safer, but are probably doing the same things...

Where are the tin foil hat pictures btw?

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[x] First poker is rigged post with actual statistics and evidence to back up the claims, rather than anecdotal stories.