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Old 11-26-2007, 07:12 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: KK against thinking opponent

If he folds a hand like KJ (language nits: read a marginal second best hand), then check.

I really really don't understand "I'm not foldiing", please explain
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: KK against thinking opponent

Value bet. He may think you're repping a narrow range by firing this river, and will call down light.
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:15 PM
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Value bet. He may think you're repping a narrow range by firing this river, and will call down light.

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if he thinks i have a narrow range here then why would he call down light?
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:17 PM
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Value bet. He may think you're repping a narrow range by firing this river, and will call down light.

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if he thinks i have a narrow range here then why would he call down light?

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he thinks the legit part of your range is small, not your overall range (VBs + bluffs)
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:25 PM
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Yes, AE6 has it right. BTW, I think:

b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent

I would never c/c or b/c against a player like this who probably isn't going to turn a made hand into a bluff.
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:28 PM
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Yes, AE6 has it right. BTW, I think:

b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent

I would never c/c or b/c against a player like this who probably isn't going to turn a made hand into a bluff.

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ok thats exactly what i thought, but gratned that that card changed the dynamic of the board a lot i opted to check because i just couldnt figure him for a hand that would pay off if i led. maybe he thinks my bluff range now is wider and might but i dont see why hed call a bet here with QJ/KJ

i checked he bet 62 i folded.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: KK against thinking opponent

Tbh id rather c/r AI than c/c here, simply because he is never betting with a worse hand. So he has either AJ a flush or FH, at least by c/r AI you can occasionally win the pot.

I still like c/f because if you bet i dont think he looks you up with a random J or underpair here.
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