11$ PP SNG

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PartyPoker $11 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2080)
UTG+1 (t3350)
Hero (t3810)
Button (t2020)
SB (t4630)
BB (t4110)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t400, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t950) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets t1200</font>

Hero: ?

Not too much of a read on villain, he played rather tight before.(VP$P 17%)

To me, there's only 2 viable options. Push or fold. Thoughts?

[caretaker1]

Fold preflop. But the way you played it, push on the flop.

[aujoz]

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Fold preflop. But the way you played it, push on the flop.

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[Gelford]

What where you hoping for, when you called prefold

If you only hoped to spike a set, then I question your play, but if that was not your only hope, then you gotten it all it seems.

Flop is rags, so your nines are an overpair and you got an oesd as a nice bonus, so I can't see why you are in doubt ?

[Oof]

Preflop, I put him on AK/AQ. My initial "plan" was to bet/raise in case of a raggy board, and naturally I liked the flop, but him overbetting the pot put me into a bit of a dilemma.

What hand would you put him on?

[tigerite]

Stop putting people on hands you beat, basically.

[aujoz]

Mate,

pre-flop, you can't possibly put him on only AK/AQ. This is a big error. Your only info is a raise - a raise that could mean much more than AK/AQ. For instance, if you were playing me, I raise in that situation with QQ - and thus, this would be another possible hand.

You need to start thinking in terms of ranges - obviously, a pre-flop raise could mean a variety of things, but typically it means a hand in the top x% of possible starting hands. x% is dependent on the player, the size of blinds, the size of stacks, position, etc. It's a judgement call.

Regardless, the pre-flop raise includes a variety of hands. You're about 50/50 against two overcards, and a big dog against a bigger pair. The only hands that you're leading are two undercards and a smaller PP - hands that are very unlikely to be raised in that situation by the other player.

(Note for nitpickers: You may be able to make up some of that deficiency agaisnt his range by forcing a player to fold on the flop, after only seeing 3 of the 5 community cards - eg, AK is 45% against 99 only if all 5 cards will be dealt. However, this is offset somewhat by not knowing if the flop hit the opponent if there are overcards - eg, if JQx came on the flop, you'll be leading against AK and AT, but you won't know it)


The big bet on the flop by the opponent would incline me to put them on the big pocket pair, especially one that is afraid of overcards. Of course, they may think you think the bet means this, in which case....

[Blarg]

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Preflop, I put him on AK/AQ. My initial "plan" was to bet/raise in case of a raggy board, and naturally I liked the flop, but him overbetting the pot put me into a bit of a dilemma.

What hand would you put him on?

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I put him on bigger pair than you, wanting to get you out. Secondarily, what you said.

I don't see any way you're in the lead here.

[Blarg]

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What where you hoping for, when you called prefold

If you only hoped to spike a set, then I question your play, but if that was not your only hope, then you gotten it all it seems.

Flop is rags, so your nines are an overpair and you got an oesd as a nice bonus, so I can't see why you are in doubt ?

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Ditto. AK and AQ have reason to go away here.

[Blarg]

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Stop putting people on hands you beat, basically.

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Sometimes I think you're more than a little b*tchy, but I agree here.