FR NL100 FTP - limped pot folded dumb straight, correct ?

[onager]

Villan is 16/4/2.7

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 ($101.35)
MP1 ($117.50)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($101.95)</font>
MP3 ($176.55)
CO ($44.40)
Button ($91.65)
SB ($61.45)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($133.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, MP2 calls $12, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

scary. woulnt he raise a set ? is he calling with 56 ?

Turn: ($33) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $23</font>, MP2 calls $23.

bet more ? like 27 ?

River: ($79) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $30</font>, Hero folds.

weak ? i doubt hes bluffing

Final Pot: $109

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP2 wins $109. </font>

[Lego05]

I think 23 is ok on turn. I really hate that fold on the river. Definitely call that. I may still have open shoved ther river. I'd like to see more thoughts on that, but there is no way I'm gonna fold here.

[Lego05]

Opinions on range?:


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33,660 games 0.005 secs 6,732,000 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.669% 67.24% 01.43% 22634 480.00 { Ac2s }
Hand 1: 31.331% 29.90% 01.43% 10066 480.00 { JJ-TT, 66-33, 76s, 65s }

[onager]

34 / 45 / 35 / 56 / 66 / 22 just check
33 / 44 / 55 / 67 i dont beat
A2 i split

i didnt bet the river bc i would have to call a push, but its probabbly best to bet and fold to a push ? (or dont fold ?)

basically anything that bets river i can't beat. it felt very awkward and WEAK, but seriously, what can I beat ?

[Lego05]

You're putting him on limping with 34,35,45, etc when he's a 16/4. How many hands is that over? Actually i think a more realistic range is:

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21 games 0.005 secs 4,200 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h Qh Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.143% 57.14% 00.00% 12 0.00 { Ac2s }
Hand 1: 42.857% 42.86% 00.00% 9 0.00 { TT, 66-33 }


Maybe with:

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25 games 0.005 secs 5,000 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h Qh Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.000% 48.00% 00.00% 12 0.00 { Ac2s }
Hand 1: 52.000% 52.00% 00.00% 13 0.00 { TT, 66-33, 76s }


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28 games 0.005 secs 5,600 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h Qh Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.571% 53.57% 00.00% 15 0.00 { Ac2s }
Hand 1: 46.429% 46.43% 00.00% 13 0.00 { TT, 66-33, 76s, 65s }


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31 games 0.005 secs 6,200 games/sec

Board: 3c 4d 5h Qh Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.065% 58.06% 00.00% 18 0.00 { Ac2s }
Hand 1: 41.935% 41.94% 00.00% 13 0.00 { JJ-TT, 66-33, 76s }



I really can't see a fold here.