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Old 05-12-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default The Commerce, some turn action

Decent 20/40 Commerce game. A mix of different players and at this point in time the game seems a bit loose. The Villian in this hand is tight/straight forward. She table changed to another table earlier, but now is back for more.

Preflop:
Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Every limps to Villian who raises on the button
Villian would not raise here unless with a premium hand
About 6 to the flop

Flop:
7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Check to Villian who bets, 4 call

Turn:
Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to Hero?
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: The Commerce, some turn action

pretty easy bet imo.
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: The Commerce, some turn action

Well i felt the same way and bet. Then she raised me... whats the plan now?
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: The Commerce, some turn action

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Well i felt the same way and bet. Then she raised me... whats the plan now?

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I'd have raised pf first time around. i don't get whats hard about the turn... call. 3betting and folding both suck obv
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: The Commerce, some turn action

I was just wondering if C/C was better since i my only live out may be a 9.

Although my thought process are a little tainted since i already know she will raise on the turn.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: The Commerce, some turn action

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I was just wondering if C/C was better since i my only live out may be a 9.

Although my thought process are a little tainted since i already know she will raise on the turn.

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betting the turn is good because you likely have the best hand but its weak and there are a ton of draws out on that board that you need to protect against if you're ahead.

also, i dunno how the commerce plays but on the east coast, you'll find a lot of villains who won't raise your turn donk w/out 2pair or better - i suspect this is unlikely at commerce. sounds like you ran into a set this time around and it sucks to put in 2 bets in on the turn when you're toast but bottom line is that turn has to be bet.
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Old 05-12-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: The Commerce, some turn action

I like your bet here specifically because I would expect a raise from the villian. You were able to put maximum amount of pressure on the other two players who have yet to show any strength by enlisting the villian to help protect your hand. If you check and she gets checkraised on the continuation you pretty much cant call. By leading you protect your hand very well and can fold if it gets back to you three bet.
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