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Old 09-08-2007, 12:34 AM
Ray Zee Ray Zee is offline
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Default Re: bottom 2 + NFD

your going with this hand.
what you need to ask really is --should i have opened utg for a big raise with it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 12:36 AM
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Four handed anything else would be awfully weak.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:23 AM
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it has to be at least a set here surely? what else can he raise the max with, he may be aggro but he isnt stupid enough to raise with just flush draw
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:28 AM
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At least a set? LOL. Can he never have a draw here? This is an instashove.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:32 AM
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i severely doubt it as he doesnt have nut flush draw and i just couldnt see someone making this play wihtout one or the other
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: bottom 2 + NFD

Why do you 'severely doubt' it? The K is not a diamond so there's no reason whatsoever that villain isn't thinking 'he may have just AA or be making a c-bet so I'll take him off his hand with plenty of outs', like Kx89 with the k-high flush draw? He really doesn't need the nfd in his range of draws to be making this move with just a draw. The guy is prescribed as a regular as well, so he doesn't just checkraise with sets. Which is noobish, in case you didn't know.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:17 PM
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You should fold you don't have the nuts.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:14 PM
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interesting how everybody says a shove is oh so standard, but... if you know your opponent ans are about 80% sure he has a set, a fold would be the only right thing to do... seriously, one who's able to fold in this spot.... Respect!
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:16 PM
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yes, poker is easy when you know exactly what your opponent has every time
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:26 PM
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some (not that few) opponents is not hard to have an 80% read on...

situational, our guy has a set here almost always, and I love the ability to fold in this spot, and I wish I had it.... again.. respect to the one who can!

cause being all in on a draw you figure has 7 outs obviously is super spew.....
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